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When you're running for president of the US and your son is in an overall shady bed with China and Russia it should matter. If Joe knew, it should at least be f

When you're running for president of the US and your son is in an overall shady bed with China and Russia it should matter. If Joe knew, it should at least be fair news, same if he didn't know.

hotpotamus 4y ago
Do we really have to pretend that anyone cares about this any more? Like sorry, but Trump proved that the right wing doesn't give one shit if one of their boys does it. That's why your faux outrage falls on deaf ears now - no one believes that you have any standards.
- naasking 4y ago
  > Like sorry, but Trump proved that the right wing doesn't give one shit if one of their boys does it And Democrats just proved they don't either. So maybe Democrats should take this opportunity to prove they aren't hypocrites instead of acting just like the other side they're criticizing.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    Which party claims to be all about individual responsibility and law and order? Perhaps the conservatives’ embrace of post modernist nihilism has consequences beyond themselves?
    - naasking 4y ago
      I could just as easily ask you which party claims to be about justice, fairness and democracy? Let's not mince words, politicians of all stripes are largely opportunistic and self-serving, and that's what the evidence is suggesting. There is not as much difference between either side on that point.
      - hotpotamus 4y ago
        Ok, what would one party have to do to prove they are better than the other?
        naasking 4y ago
        Define "better". Do you mean, "the clearly preferable option in any election", or "acting on issues most citizens care about", or perhaps even just "more trustworthy"? Because these are all different and they don't all break in the Democrats' favour in every election. The abortion issue is a perfect example. They talked a big game for decades about codifying Roe, and did absolutely nothing every time they got into power, and just cynically used that as a lever in any election to pressure people into into electing them through scare tactics. Is that trustworthy? They seem to have gotten a boost in recent polls because of abortion, but oh boy if they don't follow through this time it will be a bloodbath in 2024, and rightly so. Believe me, the Democrats are not above trying to subvert democracy to win either. They actually do it every election in a legal way, and recently tried to do it illegally and a judge smacked them down. I get it, you hate the tactics both sides employ, but you at least agree with what the Democrats claim to stand for. Maybe ask yourself whether they actually stand for those principles or if that's just more cynical opportunism.
- UberFly 4y ago
  You are projecting a comment about Joe Biden on Trump for some reason. That comment had nothing to do with Trump.

When you're running for president of the US and your son is in an overall shady bed with China and Russia it should matter. If Joe knew, it should at least be fair news, same if he didn't know.

hotpotamus 4y ago

Do we really have to pretend that anyone cares about this any more? Like sorry, but Trump proved that the right wing doesn't give one shit if one of their boys does it. That's why your faux outrage falls on deaf ears now - no one believes that you have any standards.

naasking 4y ago
> Like sorry, but Trump proved that the right wing doesn't give one shit if one of their boys does it And Democrats just proved they don't either. So maybe Democrats should take this opportunity to prove they aren't hypocrites instead of acting just like the other side they're criticizing.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Which party claims to be all about individual responsibility and law and order? Perhaps the conservatives’ embrace of post modernist nihilism has consequences beyond themselves?
  - naasking 4y ago
    I could just as easily ask you which party claims to be about justice, fairness and democracy? Let's not mince words, politicians of all stripes are largely opportunistic and self-serving, and that's what the evidence is suggesting. There is not as much difference between either side on that point.
    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      Ok, what would one party have to do to prove they are better than the other?
      - naasking 4y ago
        Define "better". Do you mean, "the clearly preferable option in any election", or "acting on issues most citizens care about", or perhaps even just "more trustworthy"? Because these are all different and they don't all break in the Democrats' favour in every election. The abortion issue is a perfect example. They talked a big game for decades about codifying Roe, and did absolutely nothing every time they got into power, and just cynically used that as a lever in any election to pressure people into into electing them through scare tactics. Is that trustworthy? They seem to have gotten a boost in recent polls because of abortion, but oh boy if they don't follow through this time it will be a bloodbath in 2024, and rightly so. Believe me, the Democrats are not above trying to subvert democracy to win either. They actually do it every election in a legal way, and recently tried to do it illegally and a judge smacked them down. I get it, you hate the tactics both sides employ, but you at least agree with what the Democrats claim to stand for. Maybe ask yourself whether they actually stand for those principles or if that's just more cynical opportunism.
UberFly 4y ago
You are projecting a comment about Joe Biden on Trump for some reason. That comment had nothing to do with Trump.