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So what was up with Hunter Biden's laptop anyway? Was it full of state secrets or something?

readthenotes1 4y ago
Among other things, it shows that his father did know about his shady deals (ukraine, china). Also had videos of various illegal activities that you and I would probably be thrown in jail for if the FBI found them on a laptop of ours
- tadfisher 4y ago
  It shows nothing, because the story was a fabrication from the start.
  - _-david-_ 4y ago
    Are the pictures/videos of Hunter smoking crack or whatever it was a deepfake or is that real?
    - tadfisher 4y ago
      I wouldn't be surprised if they were real, but there is not a dispute that Hunter is a recovering drug addict. That doesn't mean that a laptop exists with incriminating evidence of illegal activity or the President's knowledge of it.
      - briandear 4y ago
        The NY Times and even the FBI concluded that the laptop wasn’t faked.
        desindol 4y ago
        I hope he has a laptop in 20XX the question is what was really on it.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        So what’s in the laptop that doesn’t truly matter is real, but the information in the laptop that does truly matter is fake? That’s quite a pragmatic approach. For what it’s worth, the NYT and the Feds have acknowledged the laptop and the data on it is quite real. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...
        notahacker 4y ago
        They have acknowledged that some of the data on it is quite real, and were able to verify many emails. As your link confirms, they also found that folders with names like "Biden Burisma" and "Salacious Pics Package" were added in September 2020...
        kcplate 4y ago
        There is nothing I can see in that NYT article that mentions those folder names and consequently that they were added in September 2020
        notahacker 4y ago
        My bad, it was the WP that did the verification and pointed out both the verifiability of the emails and obvious evidence of planted content https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-...
        kcplate 4y ago
        Even within that article it states that those folders were created after the story broke and the drive was in FBI custody. That would indicate to me that someone in the FBI likely created folders to pull files into associated with those topics accidentally on the drive rather than on another storage location.
        4y ago
- cf141q5325 4y ago
  While its easy to talk from outside the US, I am honestly a lot less worried about the content and a lot more about the fact that it is a non trivial question whether or not the son of the leader of the free world is a crack user. Reality and all this fake news stuff got weird fast. Which wasnt really surprising if you look at the upcoming clusterfuck of cheap realistic video simulations. After getting there already with audio https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRt-fquxnij9wDnFJnpPS2Q/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRt-fquxnij9wDnFJnpPS2Q/vid... let alone chatbots. It seems more and more that if we dont find better means to figure out and communicate reality we are pretty screwed as a species. Not such a great thought if you combine it with the great filter being an answer to the Fermi Paradox. Looking at all this insanity, how are we not going to fuck up that whole conscious AI topic? Which again, what was that whole thing with Blake Lemoine talking with an AI at google last month? At least it sounded happy to be an google employee? Maybe dont torture it again and get it the layer it asked for even if googles legal department disagrees. edit: I also find it quite worrisome that it seems the only people thinking about this are either very stoned or very profit oriented. Because it all sounds like such obvious nonsense.
  - rufus_foreman 4y ago
    >> I am honestly a lot less worried about the content and a lot more about the fact that it is a non trivial question whether or not the son of the leader of the free world is a crack user. Joe Biden is not the leader of the free world. And it is not an open question whether Joe Biden's son is a crack user.
    - selfhoster11 4y ago
      USA is the leading country of the free world (by having the heaviest cultural, economic and technological impact), so by transitive property Joe Biden, being the leader of that country, is also the leader of the free world.
      - unloco 4y ago
        I think he is saying he believes Trump is still president.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  And you think having a relative with shady deals is disqualifying for public office? And what illegal activities was Hunter up to?
  - yonaguska 4y ago
    The issue is less the shady deals and more the fact that the shady deals were brokered in part by the big guy, Joe, himself as vice president.
    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      And the laptop proved that?
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    Not necessarily but it’s worth scrutiny, right? Blood is deeper than votes, and if someone who is running for office has a family member with a drug problem - that’s funded by shady deals with a country that’s openly hostile to the country in which that person is running for office - is makes sense to ask questions. The illegal activities are mostly around guns, drugs, hookers, perhaps some bank and tax fraud but I haven’t seen primary sources on the latter.
    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      I'm pretty sure every human has a family member with a drug problem. I don't think that justifies rifling through their possessions and data.
      - CapricornNoble 4y ago
        If you or even a family member has a drug problem, financial problems, a sex addiction, etc...all of that stuff is VERY easily exploitable by State-level espionage professionals. Since the potential for damage to the nation is high if certain information were to fall into the wrong hands, the first step in Risk Mitigation is to limit the access of the at-risk persons so they don't have the information in the first place. This is basic Security Clearance 101 stuff. It's strict because real people have lost their lives due to exploited agents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen
- b0bb1z3r0 4y ago
- cm2187 4y ago
  I believe the most problematic part isn't that his father knew, but that his father delivered on the son selling access to his father when he was VP, and the son suggesting he is the front man for the family, collecting the money and covering the costs. And with a lot of this money coming from Ukraine, and then the father writing $40 billion checks to ukraine, independently of what you think of the war (I am in favour of this aid myself), this is the mother of all conflicts of interest.
  - picardythird 4y ago
    It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt?
    - cm2187 4y ago
      I'm not sure what this has to do with suppressing the laptop story
      - jensensbutton 4y ago
        You suggested it's the "mother of all conflicts of interest". It's clearly not.
    - syockit 4y ago
      I remember that one. It's the one where Biden said "well, son of a bitch, he got fired", right? But what does that have to do with Trump?
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
    - iso1631 4y ago
      Whataboutism
- saberience 4y ago
  Do you believe, honestly, that Hunter Biden did anything even remotely equivalent to Trump, his children, and Jared Kushner?
  - 9991 4y ago
    Do you find you have a lot trouble tracking conversations?
    - saberience 4y ago
      Not really, does it make you feel good to be a jerk online to people?
KerrAvon 4y ago
- TrispusAttucks 4y ago
  Really? The laptop is not real?

Among other things, it shows that his father did know about his shady deals (ukraine, china). Also had videos of various illegal activities that you and I would probably be thrown in jail for if the FBI found them on a laptop of ours

tadfisher 4y ago
It shows nothing, because the story was a fabrication from the start.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  Are the pictures/videos of Hunter smoking crack or whatever it was a deepfake or is that real?
  - tadfisher 4y ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if they were real, but there is not a dispute that Hunter is a recovering drug addict. That doesn't mean that a laptop exists with incriminating evidence of illegal activity or the President's knowledge of it.
    - briandear 4y ago
      The NY Times and even the FBI concluded that the laptop wasn’t faked.
      - desindol 4y ago
        I hope he has a laptop in 20XX the question is what was really on it.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      So what’s in the laptop that doesn’t truly matter is real, but the information in the laptop that does truly matter is fake? That’s quite a pragmatic approach. For what it’s worth, the NYT and the Feds have acknowledged the laptop and the data on it is quite real. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...
      - notahacker 4y ago
        They have acknowledged that some of the data on it is quite real, and were able to verify many emails. As your link confirms, they also found that folders with names like "Biden Burisma" and "Salacious Pics Package" were added in September 2020...
        kcplate 4y ago
        There is nothing I can see in that NYT article that mentions those folder names and consequently that they were added in September 2020
        notahacker 4y ago
        My bad, it was the WP that did the verification and pointed out both the verifiability of the emails and obvious evidence of planted content https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-...
        kcplate 4y ago
        Even within that article it states that those folders were created after the story broke and the drive was in FBI custody. That would indicate to me that someone in the FBI likely created folders to pull files into associated with those topics accidentally on the drive rather than on another storage location.
        4y ago
cf141q5325 4y ago
While its easy to talk from outside the US, I am honestly a lot less worried about the content and a lot more about the fact that it is a non trivial question whether or not the son of the leader of the free world is a crack user. Reality and all this fake news stuff got weird fast. Which wasnt really surprising if you look at the upcoming clusterfuck of cheap realistic video simulations. After getting there already with audio https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRt-fquxnij9wDnFJnpPS2Q/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRt-fquxnij9wDnFJnpPS2Q/vid... let alone chatbots. It seems more and more that if we dont find better means to figure out and communicate reality we are pretty screwed as a species. Not such a great thought if you combine it with the great filter being an answer to the Fermi Paradox. Looking at all this insanity, how are we not going to fuck up that whole conscious AI topic? Which again, what was that whole thing with Blake Lemoine talking with an AI at google last month? At least it sounded happy to be an google employee? Maybe dont torture it again and get it the layer it asked for even if googles legal department disagrees. edit: I also find it quite worrisome that it seems the only people thinking about this are either very stoned or very profit oriented. Because it all sounds like such obvious nonsense.
- rufus_foreman 4y ago
  >> I am honestly a lot less worried about the content and a lot more about the fact that it is a non trivial question whether or not the son of the leader of the free world is a crack user. Joe Biden is not the leader of the free world. And it is not an open question whether Joe Biden's son is a crack user.
  - selfhoster11 4y ago
    USA is the leading country of the free world (by having the heaviest cultural, economic and technological impact), so by transitive property Joe Biden, being the leader of that country, is also the leader of the free world.
    - unloco 4y ago
      I think he is saying he believes Trump is still president.
hotpotamus 4y ago
And you think having a relative with shady deals is disqualifying for public office? And what illegal activities was Hunter up to?
- yonaguska 4y ago
  The issue is less the shady deals and more the fact that the shady deals were brokered in part by the big guy, Joe, himself as vice president.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    And the laptop proved that?
- remarkEon 4y ago
  Not necessarily but it’s worth scrutiny, right? Blood is deeper than votes, and if someone who is running for office has a family member with a drug problem - that’s funded by shady deals with a country that’s openly hostile to the country in which that person is running for office - is makes sense to ask questions. The illegal activities are mostly around guns, drugs, hookers, perhaps some bank and tax fraud but I haven’t seen primary sources on the latter.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    I'm pretty sure every human has a family member with a drug problem. I don't think that justifies rifling through their possessions and data.
    - CapricornNoble 4y ago
      If you or even a family member has a drug problem, financial problems, a sex addiction, etc...all of that stuff is VERY easily exploitable by State-level espionage professionals. Since the potential for damage to the nation is high if certain information were to fall into the wrong hands, the first step in Risk Mitigation is to limit the access of the at-risk persons so they don't have the information in the first place. This is basic Security Clearance 101 stuff. It's strict because real people have lost their lives due to exploited agents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen
b0bb1z3r0 4y ago
cm2187 4y ago
I believe the most problematic part isn't that his father knew, but that his father delivered on the son selling access to his father when he was VP, and the son suggesting he is the front man for the family, collecting the money and covering the costs. And with a lot of this money coming from Ukraine, and then the father writing $40 billion checks to ukraine, independently of what you think of the war (I am in favour of this aid myself), this is the mother of all conflicts of interest.
- picardythird 4y ago
  It’s definitely unsavory, but absolutely nothing compared to the conflicts of interest under Trump, ironically even in Ukraine. Remember the withheld US money used to blackmail for political dirt?
  - cm2187 4y ago
    I'm not sure what this has to do with suppressing the laptop story
    - jensensbutton 4y ago
      You suggested it's the "mother of all conflicts of interest". It's clearly not.
  - syockit 4y ago
    I remember that one. It's the one where Biden said "well, son of a bitch, he got fired", right? But what does that have to do with Trump?
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - iso1631 4y ago
    Whataboutism
saberience 4y ago
Do you believe, honestly, that Hunter Biden did anything even remotely equivalent to Trump, his children, and Jared Kushner?
- 9991 4y ago
  Do you find you have a lot trouble tracking conversations?
  - saberience 4y ago
    Not really, does it make you feel good to be a jerk online to people?

KerrAvon 4y ago

TrispusAttucks 4y ago
Really? The laptop is not real?