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Of course English has gender but mostly in pronouns which are easy to master (until you talk about ships where it gets weird.) Plurals and articles seem to tri

Of course English has gender but mostly in pronouns which are easy to master (until you talk about ships where it gets weird.) Plurals and articles seem to trip up many non-native English speakers. The rules for these things are quite intricate and riddled with exceptions, and if you write a page of prose and make a single mistake with a plural or an article, a native English reader will instantly know you are not a native speaker, even if your meaning is understood. Example: "if you write page of prose and make single mistake with plural or article, native English reader will instantly know you are not native speaker."

CRConrad 4y ago
> Of course English has gender but mostly in pronouns which are easy to master (until you talk about ships where it gets weird.) "Ships are 'she', except in the American navy, where littoral surface combatants are 'he'", or "...except in the British navy, where submarines are 'he'", something like that, isn't it? Guess I'll only talk about "the vessel", which should pretty reliably be "it". > Plurals and articles seem to trip up many non-native English speakers. The rules for these things are quite intricate and riddled with exceptions, and if you write a page of prose and make a single mistake with a plural or an article, a native English reader will instantly know you are not a native speaker, even if your meaning is understood. Fortunately not so bad for speakers of German and the Nordic languages, which work rather similarly. (Germans usually give themselves away by using the compound in stead of simple past tense.) > Example: "if you write page of prose and make single mistake with plural or article, native English reader will instantly know you are not native speaker." The canonical example seems to be the Slavic languages, above all Russian.
- School-Cotton 4y ago
  To me, any use of “she” to refer to ships (or countries, or whatever other inanimate things people sometimes call “she”) sounds dated, weird, and somewhat poetic/figurative. I suspect this usage is almost totally dying out among the younger generations.
  - CRConrad 4y ago
    > dated, weird, and somewhat poetic/figurative. Yeah, that's me. > almost totally dying out That too. > among the younger generations. That's not me.
- int_19h 4y ago
  Russian lacks articles entirely, like most Slavic languages.

CRConrad 4y ago

> Of course English has gender but mostly in pronouns which are easy to master (until you talk about ships where it gets weird.) "Ships are 'she', except in the American navy, where littoral surface combatants are 'he'", or "...except in the British navy, where submarines are 'he'", something like that, isn't it? Guess I'll only talk about "the vessel", which should pretty reliably be "it". > Plurals and articles seem to trip up many non-native English speakers. The rules for these things are quite intricate and riddled with exceptions, and if you write a page of prose and make a single mistake with a plural or an article, a native English reader will instantly know you are not a native speaker, even if your meaning is understood. Fortunately not so bad for speakers of German and the Nordic languages, which work rather similarly. (Germans usually give themselves away by using the compound in stead of simple past tense.) > Example: "if you write page of prose and make single mistake with plural or article, native English reader will instantly know you are not native speaker." The canonical example seems to be the Slavic languages, above all Russian.

School-Cotton 4y ago
To me, any use of “she” to refer to ships (or countries, or whatever other inanimate things people sometimes call “she”) sounds dated, weird, and somewhat poetic/figurative. I suspect this usage is almost totally dying out among the younger generations.
- CRConrad 4y ago
  > dated, weird, and somewhat poetic/figurative. Yeah, that's me. > almost totally dying out That too. > among the younger generations. That's not me.
int_19h 4y ago
Russian lacks articles entirely, like most Slavic languages.