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While we're in the vein of FM Synthesizers, if anyone has MAX/MSP, it should come with an example patch called "X-FM~". If you modify things right you can get u

by seagaia 15y ago

While we're in the vein of FM Synthesizers, if anyone has MAX/MSP, it should come with an example patch called "X-FM~". If you modify things right you can get usable and interesting sounds. In terms of other similar things to MAX/MSP (a visual audio programming interface, among other things), here's one for unix-likes, I believe (never used it, anyone know how good it is?) http://puredata.info/ http://puredata.info/

rasur 15y ago
To answer your question, PureData is excellent.
- JonnieCache 15y ago
  It's good fun, but its tcl interface makes me want to cry. The audio engine imparts a very specific sound upon everything that comes out of it, much like Max/MSP. It was developed by one of the original Max/MSP authors. I think it was released after they left cycling74 amidst some sort of drama, but don't quote me on that.
  - seagaia 15y ago
    Yep. A lot of sounds tend to get that FM-synthesis flavor. I've found MAX/MSP to be useful when processing audio in realtime or using some pre-recorded stuff (some funky custom flanger on some piano recordings, for instance).
    - JonnieCache 15y ago
      You can do really nasty things to samples with it as well.
  - modulusprime 15y ago
    Miller Puckette is the primary author of pure-data (pd)and the original author (while at IRCAM) of Max. In Max/MSP/Jitter, MSP is the DSP portion of the code, named in homage to Puckette. (Max itself is named in honor of Max Mathews.) David Zicarelli's Cycling74 maintains the original Max tree, though their contribution far exceeds "maintenance". Puckette's pd is a rewrite of Max intended to transcend some architectural limitations; as its name suggests, its conception of "data" is more fully abstracted away from the C underpinnings still visible in Max/MSP. In my opinion, pd is a more mature architecture while Max is a more mature product. As far as I know, the only drama in the timeline revolves around Opcode (particularly its sale to Gibson), which led Zicarelli to start Cycling74. Beyond that, my impression is of mutual respect. The tradeoff between maturity and elegance is sometimes maddening, but both are worth exploring. Max has a 30-day trial and pd is gratis/libre. Some development history, including detail possibly of interest to hackers: http://xavier.amatriain.net/Thesis/html/node77.html http://xavier.amatriain.net/Thesis/html/node77.html Miller Puckette: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/ http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/ Max Mathews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mathews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mathews pure-data: http://puredata.info/ http://puredata.info/ Max/MSP/Jitter: http://cycling74.com/ http://cycling74.com/
twoism 15y ago
Have you tried Supercollider? It's an awesome DSL for doing all things audio.
- twoism 15y ago
  http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/ http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/
th0ma5 15y ago
vvvv is great ... there are some other graphical media interfaces out there as well, but PD and vvvv are the most er... popular? edit: oh yeah and supercollider!
JonnieCache 15y ago
Synthmaker is a good one too. http://synthmaker.co.uk/ http://synthmaker.co.uk/ Unfortunately it's windows only. It does have a lot of advanced capabilities you don't see in similar tools though, such as proper GUI elements and one-click VST export.

by seagaia 15y ago

rasur 15y ago

To answer your question, PureData is excellent.

JonnieCache 15y ago
It's good fun, but its tcl interface makes me want to cry. The audio engine imparts a very specific sound upon everything that comes out of it, much like Max/MSP. It was developed by one of the original Max/MSP authors. I think it was released after they left cycling74 amidst some sort of drama, but don't quote me on that.
- seagaia 15y ago
  Yep. A lot of sounds tend to get that FM-synthesis flavor. I've found MAX/MSP to be useful when processing audio in realtime or using some pre-recorded stuff (some funky custom flanger on some piano recordings, for instance).
  - JonnieCache 15y ago
    You can do really nasty things to samples with it as well.
- modulusprime 15y ago
  Miller Puckette is the primary author of pure-data (pd)and the original author (while at IRCAM) of Max. In Max/MSP/Jitter, MSP is the DSP portion of the code, named in homage to Puckette. (Max itself is named in honor of Max Mathews.) David Zicarelli's Cycling74 maintains the original Max tree, though their contribution far exceeds "maintenance". Puckette's pd is a rewrite of Max intended to transcend some architectural limitations; as its name suggests, its conception of "data" is more fully abstracted away from the C underpinnings still visible in Max/MSP. In my opinion, pd is a more mature architecture while Max is a more mature product. As far as I know, the only drama in the timeline revolves around Opcode (particularly its sale to Gibson), which led Zicarelli to start Cycling74. Beyond that, my impression is of mutual respect. The tradeoff between maturity and elegance is sometimes maddening, but both are worth exploring. Max has a 30-day trial and pd is gratis/libre. Some development history, including detail possibly of interest to hackers: http://xavier.amatriain.net/Thesis/html/node77.html http://xavier.amatriain.net/Thesis/html/node77.html Miller Puckette: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/ http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/ Max Mathews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mathews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mathews pure-data: http://puredata.info/ http://puredata.info/ Max/MSP/Jitter: http://cycling74.com/ http://cycling74.com/

twoism 15y ago

Have you tried Supercollider? It's an awesome DSL for doing all things audio.

twoism 15y ago
http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/ http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/

th0ma5 15y ago

vvvv is great ... there are some other graphical media interfaces out there as well, but PD and vvvv are the most er... popular? edit: oh yeah and supercollider!

JonnieCache 15y ago

Synthmaker is a good one too. http://synthmaker.co.uk/ http://synthmaker.co.uk/ Unfortunately it's windows only. It does have a lot of advanced capabilities you don't see in similar tools though, such as proper GUI elements and one-click VST export.