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Slightly off-topic. Since my earlier days of using Windows, I have a strong impression that OS-tweaking tools are very much a double-edged sword. The advertise
by n4bz0r 4y ago
Slightly off-topic.
Since my earlier days of using Windows, I have a strong impression that OS-tweaking tools are very much a double-edged sword. The advertised functions always look attractive, but maintaining a system with such tools has always been not as trivial as the authors were depicting it to be. Sometimes to the point that something would break immediately after tweaking a setting or using some sort of system 'cleaning' slash registry 'optimisation'. In my experience, the latter had always been breaking something. And the former wasn't ever a permanent solution. In other words, given the possible complications and maintenance implications, these tools felt borderline malicious.
But it's been years if not a decade since I last used something like that. How are the things with tools like the ones O&O offer these days? My impression is, 'Shutup' seems like it could very well break a thing or two. And that Buster thing seems... superfluous? I'd rather remove unwanted apps with tools at hand. And if that would involve some black magic, then maybe they shouldn't be removed at all? What's the use in fighting windmills just to remove some default media player?
Anyway, not looking to bash on the O&O software, but merely curious what experience people have with 'tweakers' these days.
PS: I was quite surprized to see a freaking CC-cleaner installed on some modern systems. What's up with that, too?
- charles_kaw 4y agoThey can still wreck havok on your system, although doing general package uninstalls on windows is a relatively stable activity. It's an extremely modular OS and it's designed to handle many combinations. That said, Windows 11 has turned much attention to these tools due to all of the useless crap they're including on default installs. And by useless, I specifically mean the litany of "pre-installed" app shortcuts.
- Barrin92 4y agoafter a few years of not using windows I used O&O recently and it does do some things by default you wouldn't neccessarily expect. Didn't break anything but the first thing I noticed is that Edge had no browser history, which of course you can turn back on but it was a somewhat hard to find option, and I wouldn't consider that a 'default tweak' necessarily. at least I don't think it broke anything, but I think many people will still run into things that suddenly don't work with these tools.
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- chemmail 4y agoI used to do TONs of tweaks on unattended custom installs i use to make for Windows XP. Nowdays, esp Win10, not many are really need anymore, just a few open source things from ninite and Classic Start was the best, you didn't really need to see the Win10 "Apps." I haven't used Win11 too much at work, just at home on my gaming system and its mostly the same but you have to use a decent $5 pay app for the start customization and tweaking of Explorer to how you like it. You can't feel too much of the bloat anymore in a clean MS windows install and i never use the modern apps anyways (though a lot of drivers are starting to convert to that system) so uninstalling them all should not really be an issue. I've also been using StopUpdates10 to control my updates for the last few years.
- smittywerben 4y agoI used to set the group policies by hand. The tweak tools take me 5 mins and cover 95% of what I want. It's easy to footgun if you don't know what each option (sort of) does. These days I leave programs like OneDrive, app store, edge, the xbox ones unless it's like a VM. My computer runs how I want it to.