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Very interesting. I've long sought the divine in the machine but haven't found a satisfactory avenue to pursue it so I went back to Catholicism instead. It prov

Very interesting. I've long sought the divine in the machine but haven't found a satisfactory avenue to pursue it so I went back to Catholicism instead. It provides answers to our suffering that hedonism ignores.

mathgladiator 4y ago
For me, I found the purpose as my role is to solve puzzles. Ketamine gave me a sense of spirit that we are all connected in this life, and gave me insights that are hard to describe. However, I believe there is value in waking up and solving puzzles for the sake of solving puzzles and it may not be time to leverage it in the commerce (if at all).
scubakid 4y ago
Growing up in a catholic household, what I mostly felt as a kid was cognitive dissonance and guilt... but to each their own.
- politician 4y ago
  Parenting is hard.
  - paskozdilar 4y ago
    I figure it's easier when your main goal is raising your child as a life-loving person, instead of a good Catholic.
    - politician 4y ago
      There's lots of ways that crafting a moral compass around being a "life-loving person" can go wrong too. It's a hard problem.
      - bheadmaster 4y ago
        You can say that about any kind of life philosophy. However, children are born as life-loving creatures. It seems reasonable that it's easier to keep them that way while teaching them how to function in this world, than to force onto them rigid unnatural habits (for example, many Christians consider sexuality a bad thing, and teach their children to be ashamed of their sexuality, except in this very special case of being married to someone; or they take the "respect your parents" command too seriously, effectively ridding their child of all rights to any kind of personal integrity - "I am your parent, you shall respect me, no matter what I do"), which lead to frustration of the child, which leads to resistance, which leads to frustration of parents, which leads to general unhappiness and mistrust. But even if we completely disregard the complexity of raising children - Christianity is, in its essence, a suffering fetish. The symbol of Christianity is a man suffering on a cross. I do not believe that that kind of imagery doesn't have harmful effects on young children.
        politician 4y ago
        I understand that you have a specific problem with Christians. However, you should be aware that your examples aren’t just wrong but more like caricatures of what’s actually in the Bible. The TLDR on the Bible is John 3:16-21. You’ve probably heard the first sentence, but I encourage you to read the full paragraph and then compare it with the characterization you shared here.
        bheadmaster 4y ago
        > However, you should be aware that your examples aren’t just wrong I've personally witnessed every single thing I've written, so they can't be completely wrong. I was also raised in a Christian family, in a Christian neighborhood, so I'm pretty sure that what I've observed is at the very least plausible. > The TLDR on the Bible is John 3:16-21. You should note that Bible is huge, full of contradictions and open to interpretation. You should also note that many Christians have never even read the Bible, and don't follow it to the word, but rather follow the culture of their peers, which is usually focused on observable behaviors (don't eat X, don't work on Y, don't do Z, etc.), rather than deeper, more complex points (love thy neighbor as you love yourself, turn the other cheek, who is without sin - throw the first stone, etc.). Note that (except for the "suffering fetish" comment) I'm not even trying to tackle the Bible or Christianity as a philosophy here. I'm talking strictly about the sociological aspects of religion.
barrysteve 4y ago
I'd argue calling the water a machine and hedonism, you never left Catholicism.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
  The water?

mathgladiator 4y ago

For me, I found the purpose as my role is to solve puzzles. Ketamine gave me a sense of spirit that we are all connected in this life, and gave me insights that are hard to describe. However, I believe there is value in waking up and solving puzzles for the sake of solving puzzles and it may not be time to leverage it in the commerce (if at all).

scubakid 4y ago

Growing up in a catholic household, what I mostly felt as a kid was cognitive dissonance and guilt... but to each their own.

politician 4y ago
Parenting is hard.
- paskozdilar 4y ago
  I figure it's easier when your main goal is raising your child as a life-loving person, instead of a good Catholic.
  - politician 4y ago
    There's lots of ways that crafting a moral compass around being a "life-loving person" can go wrong too. It's a hard problem.
    - bheadmaster 4y ago
      You can say that about any kind of life philosophy. However, children are born as life-loving creatures. It seems reasonable that it's easier to keep them that way while teaching them how to function in this world, than to force onto them rigid unnatural habits (for example, many Christians consider sexuality a bad thing, and teach their children to be ashamed of their sexuality, except in this very special case of being married to someone; or they take the "respect your parents" command too seriously, effectively ridding their child of all rights to any kind of personal integrity - "I am your parent, you shall respect me, no matter what I do"), which lead to frustration of the child, which leads to resistance, which leads to frustration of parents, which leads to general unhappiness and mistrust. But even if we completely disregard the complexity of raising children - Christianity is, in its essence, a suffering fetish. The symbol of Christianity is a man suffering on a cross. I do not believe that that kind of imagery doesn't have harmful effects on young children.
      - politician 4y ago
        I understand that you have a specific problem with Christians. However, you should be aware that your examples aren’t just wrong but more like caricatures of what’s actually in the Bible. The TLDR on the Bible is John 3:16-21. You’ve probably heard the first sentence, but I encourage you to read the full paragraph and then compare it with the characterization you shared here.
        bheadmaster 4y ago
        > However, you should be aware that your examples aren’t just wrong I've personally witnessed every single thing I've written, so they can't be completely wrong. I was also raised in a Christian family, in a Christian neighborhood, so I'm pretty sure that what I've observed is at the very least plausible. > The TLDR on the Bible is John 3:16-21. You should note that Bible is huge, full of contradictions and open to interpretation. You should also note that many Christians have never even read the Bible, and don't follow it to the word, but rather follow the culture of their peers, which is usually focused on observable behaviors (don't eat X, don't work on Y, don't do Z, etc.), rather than deeper, more complex points (love thy neighbor as you love yourself, turn the other cheek, who is without sin - throw the first stone, etc.). Note that (except for the "suffering fetish" comment) I'm not even trying to tackle the Bible or Christianity as a philosophy here. I'm talking strictly about the sociological aspects of religion.

barrysteve 4y ago

I'd argue calling the water a machine and hedonism, you never left Catholicism.

ad404b8a372f2b9 4y ago
The water?