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people blaming industries (or rich people), industries blaming government and government blaming people It's not just about electricity, but water, food, pollu

people blaming industries (or rich people), industries blaming government and government blaming people It's not just about electricity, but water, food, pollution (health), etc.. everything related to the destruction of environment and pollution (note: I'm French and optimized my life since a long time, almost no expenses, 100-200€mo in total living alone, minimalism, for me it's a triple win: I feel better, save money and save the environment, it's my way to vote for saving the environment)

feet 4y ago
Governments blame people because those governments are usually captured by industry and the rich capital owners
ta988 4y ago
I would be interested in seeing your budget and existing assets (home, car...)
- 11235813213455 4y ago
  apartment (proprietary, 25m2, S/E of France sea-side): 30€mo charges, 300€year tax, 7€moinsurance, 7€mo internet, 10-12€mo electricity (https://imgur.com/a/J5qe3yC https://imgur.com/a/J5qe3yC, almost no devices apart from laptop, light, rice cooker, hair cutter) food: 32€ for a 20kg bag of rice for 4 months, 15€mo of eggs, much vegetable for free (fruit foraging like figs, persimons, mandarines or I help merchants at markets, it's technically illegal work, but that's tolerated, I even talked about it with a cop recently) else that would be 50-100€mo various: 2€ soap block for 2 month, 2€ air chamber for my bike every year (I can find tires for free in garbages, just like the way I found and repaired my bike), 500€ laptop every 15 years (I'm halfway), 20€ shoes every 5 year, I haven't bought clothes in more than a decade, I could get second-handone or cheap one, or keep using my old stock. No health expenses as well for more than a decade, same toothbrush since years, no toothpaste so total: 100-120€mo For several years I had to pay a rent between 100€mo (student room) and 500€mo small appartment, this is way too expensive imo
  - ta988 4y ago
    Impressive, even when I was living in France as a student I was nowhere near that. Where do you get 7e internet?
    - 11235813213455 4y ago
      mobile phone 80G plan (https://www.symamobile.com/forfait?req=compare https://www.symamobile.com/forfait?req=compare they increased their price, but my plan doesn't change) and tethering I pushed it further as student, supermarket garbage, restaurants, it's easy to get bread for free, and end of markets for vegs. There were other people and students doing similar, but probably not as extreme, the downside is I got some food deficiencies (and small mental issues OCDs, that went away after eating more properly)

feet 4y ago

Governments blame people because those governments are usually captured by industry and the rich capital owners

ta988 4y ago

I would be interested in seeing your budget and existing assets (home, car...)

11235813213455 4y ago
apartment (proprietary, 25m2, S/E of France sea-side): 30€mo charges, 300€year tax, 7€moinsurance, 7€mo internet, 10-12€mo electricity (https://imgur.com/a/J5qe3yC https://imgur.com/a/J5qe3yC, almost no devices apart from laptop, light, rice cooker, hair cutter) food: 32€ for a 20kg bag of rice for 4 months, 15€mo of eggs, much vegetable for free (fruit foraging like figs, persimons, mandarines or I help merchants at markets, it's technically illegal work, but that's tolerated, I even talked about it with a cop recently) else that would be 50-100€mo various: 2€ soap block for 2 month, 2€ air chamber for my bike every year (I can find tires for free in garbages, just like the way I found and repaired my bike), 500€ laptop every 15 years (I'm halfway), 20€ shoes every 5 year, I haven't bought clothes in more than a decade, I could get second-handone or cheap one, or keep using my old stock. No health expenses as well for more than a decade, same toothbrush since years, no toothpaste so total: 100-120€mo For several years I had to pay a rent between 100€mo (student room) and 500€mo small appartment, this is way too expensive imo
- ta988 4y ago
  Impressive, even when I was living in France as a student I was nowhere near that. Where do you get 7e internet?
  - 11235813213455 4y ago
    mobile phone 80G plan (https://www.symamobile.com/forfait?req=compare https://www.symamobile.com/forfait?req=compare they increased their price, but my plan doesn't change) and tethering I pushed it further as student, supermarket garbage, restaurants, it's easy to get bread for free, and end of markets for vegs. There were other people and students doing similar, but probably not as extreme, the downside is I got some food deficiencies (and small mental issues OCDs, that went away after eating more properly)