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As I understand it, this procedure would result in a near perfect clone baring a few random mutations in the stem cell which they could probably screen for. To
by sometimeshuman 4y ago
As I understand it, this procedure would result in a near perfect clone baring a few random mutations in the stem cell which they could probably screen for.
To digress. I want a clone, more than anything. It's only thing I'd pay more than $100k+ for aside from housing.
I submit that society would benefit if every other generation was a clone. If I were raised by my parent-clone I would have matured faster and been more skilled at playing baby-roulette with a natural child.
Whenever I meet a 20-30 year old that has the temperament and calmness of a 40-50 year old I suspect one of two things:
1) their young-ish parents won at baby-roulette and their child had a personality similar to theirs and were able to guide them through adolescence in a more optimal way.
2) their parents were older and maturer and could navigate the personality conflicts in a way that didn't lead to long-term family dysfunction.
but even #2 is rare since not all older parents can handle all personality types, hence my suggestion for a third option: family lines based on alternate generation cloning.
- daenz 4y ago>If I were raised by my parent-clone I would have matured faster and been more skilled at playing baby-roulette with a natural child. This is leaning heavily on the assumption that your personality is primarily a product of your genetics, and not of your life experiences. Outside of relating on physiology, what makes you think you would understand their reactions to unique life experiences at such a young age? Speaking as someone who had a dramatic personality shift from early trauma, I don't think that what you hypothesize is true.
- sometimeshuman 4y ago"This is leaning heavily on the assumption that your personality is primarily a product of your genetics" Not really. If you allow that it is even 1% due to genetics, that better parenting compounds over generations. And there is a lot of evidence that it is much more than 1%. I too experienced numerous traumatic events by the time I was 12 and was then prone towards neuroticism for decades after. I still submit I'd be a much better parent to a clone than someone who has half my dna.
- daenz 4y agoIt sounds like you're saying you'd consciously be a better parent to a clone because you know it is a clone.
- dymk 4y agoIt sounds like they're saying that they would end up being a better parent because it's a clone, not because they know it's a clone.
- daenz 4y agoI'm not trying to put them on trial but... The OP has no way of knowing if they would be a better parent, but yet they still very strongly think that they would be a better parent to a child that has 100% similar dna than 50% similar dna. How can you know this unless you are biased towards the idea of a clone? "I want a clone, more than anything" suggests there is bias.
- rhacker 4y agoActually the dna would still be more than 99.9% the same even with another parent.
- DC-3 4y agoMost likely, your clone-child would grow to hate you. Why not just do things the sane way and marry a nice woman and have a child with her?
- sometimeshuman 4y agoAccepting your child may grow to hate you should be a pre-requisite for any aspiring parent. What we are doing is not "sane"[0]. Perhaps I am biased since I live in Southern California which is the Mecca for children of dysfunctional families. [0] Opening paragraph of Anna Karenina, Tolstoy
- serf 4y ago> Most likely, your clone-child would grow to hate you. Why not just do things the sane way and marry a nice woman and have a child with her? why is that 'most likely'? certainly very few people would say that so bluntly to anyone interested in natural child rearing or adoption -- why does this circumstance permit one to make such a blunt and likely ill-informed (we don't have a lot of experience with human clones..) statement?
- maximus-decimus 4y agoIronically, it that person thinks they would hate their "parents" if they had made them a clone, their clone would probably actually hate them!
- axg11 4y ago>To digress. I want a clone, more than anything. It's only thing I'd pay more than $100k+ for aside from housing. Can you explain why you want a clone? Genetically identical twins can and do end up having very different lives and personalities.
- sometimeshuman 4y agoNarcissism, maybe ? But given we have a surplus of adoptable children on this planet and not enough parents, I would argue most people have a natural child out of subconscious narcissism.
- jwond 4y ago> most people have a natural child out of subconscious narcissism I would imagine the desire to have a child that is genetically yours is a consequence of evolution. Those whose genes instill within them the desire to have a child of their own would be more driven to actually reproduce and pass on those genes.
- idiotsecant 4y agoI am not sure you have much experience with children. Telling a child that you know what their personality will be because they are a copy of you and you would respond a certain way or do a certain thing is an absolute recipe for ensuring that the child will do the opposite of that thing. What you're describing is a procedure for creating as divergent of a personality in your clone as genetics will allow.
- staticassertion 4y agoI'd rather just have a clone for spare organs. I wonder how long you can increase human lifespan if you have a supply of blood and organs from a perfect match 20 year old donor.
- _spduchamp 4y agoYou wake up and realise that YOU are the spare organs!
- staticassertion 4y agoShit happens, I accept that.