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I'm gonna strike right back with the Czech, perfectly valid, words "vchrstls" and "smrskls" (roughly "you have splashed/thrown/hurled" and "you have shrunk", re

I'm gonna strike right back with the Czech, perfectly valid, words "vchrstls" and "smrskls" (roughly "you have splashed/thrown/hurled" and "you have shrunk", respectively).

smcl 4y ago
Ha nice, I hadnt heard either before. These both rely on (I think) informal/slang way to contract past-tenses. Plus it seems (only after I looked them up on prirucka.ujc.cas.cz) the second one is a missing “se” as it’s reflective. So I think the verb “smrsknout se” would more correctly be used as “smrskl[a] jsi se”, and contracted as “smrskl[a]s se” - but then I’m a foreigner who repeatedly messes Czech up so I’m likely talking nonsense :-D
- Toutouxc 4y ago
  > These both rely on (I think) informal/slang way to contract past-tenses. It's called "příklonné -s" and yes, it's mostly used in Common Czech (the informal dialect we use in day-to-day life). I wouldn't call Common Czech slang because basically everyone speaks it or some form of it, it's not restricted to members of a subculture, profession, etc. > would more correctly be used as “smrskl[a] jsi se” Even native speakers almost never get this right -- “smrskl[a] jsi se” is the formal-ish-sounding form, but it's actually incorrect. "smrskl[a] ses" is the correct (codified) form. And yes, the verb is reflective, although I can think of some reaaally relaxed Common Czech sentences where it wouldn't be. (Smrskls trochu ty minimální požadavky [pro ten software]?) BTW where do you come from? You seem to know your way around Czech grammar. Foreigners tend to struggle a LOT with the language.
  - smcl 4y ago
    This is actually great - I didn't know the proper name of that! I first encountered it when I was first learning Czech and one friend prompted me to ask another "srals?" when they returned from the bathroom after spending a while there (I didn't know what it meant at the time) so I always just assumed it was a sort of informal/slang thing :D And I've encountered "<verb> ses" before but never really picked up on why or how it should be applied, thx the example! I'm from Scotland, but in truth I'm only really fine with Czech when i have time to sit and think about it (like reading) or when I'm talking. I totally panic when listening and get all mixed up :)
  - troad 4y ago
    > everyone speaks [Common Czech] or some form of it disapproving noises in Moravian
    - smcl 4y ago
      looks nervously towards Silesia
CRConrad 4y ago
And here I thought the name of the island Krk (off the coast of Croatia) was the only totally vowel-less word.
- Toutouxc 4y ago
  Unsurprisingly, "krk" is also a Czech word, meaning "neck". We do like our vowel-less words.

I'm gonna strike right back with the Czech, perfectly valid, words "vchrstls" and "smrskls" (roughly "you have splashed/thrown/hurled" and "you have shrunk", respectively).

smcl 4y ago

Ha nice, I hadnt heard either before. These both rely on (I think) informal/slang way to contract past-tenses. Plus it seems (only after I looked them up on prirucka.ujc.cas.cz) the second one is a missing “se” as it’s reflective. So I think the verb “smrsknout se” would more correctly be used as “smrskl[a] jsi se”, and contracted as “smrskl[a]s se” - but then I’m a foreigner who repeatedly messes Czech up so I’m likely talking nonsense :-D

Toutouxc 4y ago
> These both rely on (I think) informal/slang way to contract past-tenses. It's called "příklonné -s" and yes, it's mostly used in Common Czech (the informal dialect we use in day-to-day life). I wouldn't call Common Czech slang because basically everyone speaks it or some form of it, it's not restricted to members of a subculture, profession, etc. > would more correctly be used as “smrskl[a] jsi se” Even native speakers almost never get this right -- “smrskl[a] jsi se” is the formal-ish-sounding form, but it's actually incorrect. "smrskl[a] ses" is the correct (codified) form. And yes, the verb is reflective, although I can think of some reaaally relaxed Common Czech sentences where it wouldn't be. (Smrskls trochu ty minimální požadavky [pro ten software]?) BTW where do you come from? You seem to know your way around Czech grammar. Foreigners tend to struggle a LOT with the language.
- smcl 4y ago
  This is actually great - I didn't know the proper name of that! I first encountered it when I was first learning Czech and one friend prompted me to ask another "srals?" when they returned from the bathroom after spending a while there (I didn't know what it meant at the time) so I always just assumed it was a sort of informal/slang thing :D And I've encountered "<verb> ses" before but never really picked up on why or how it should be applied, thx the example! I'm from Scotland, but in truth I'm only really fine with Czech when i have time to sit and think about it (like reading) or when I'm talking. I totally panic when listening and get all mixed up :)
- troad 4y ago
  > everyone speaks [Common Czech] or some form of it disapproving noises in Moravian
  - smcl 4y ago
    looks nervously towards Silesia

CRConrad 4y ago

And here I thought the name of the island Krk (off the coast of Croatia) was the only totally vowel-less word.

Toutouxc 4y ago
Unsurprisingly, "krk" is also a Czech word, meaning "neck". We do like our vowel-less words.