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With that kind of experience level and assuming your abilities are consistent with it I'd agree with others that around £600 is a reasonable target. That's assu

With that kind of experience level and assuming your abilities are consistent with it I'd agree with others that around £600 is a reasonable target. That's assuming you're finding work through a recruiter who will mark up the end client rate but working outside IR35. If you're willing and able to find clients directly you can push the rate up a bit because there won't be that middleman taking a cut for a while. If you're working inside IR35 (which almost always means via an umbrella company these days) then rates more like £700-750 are a reasonable target. The market has been taking a hit recently with all the uncertainty combined with the usual slowdown over the summer season so if you're looking today and you want a quick start then you might have to settle for less. But schools go back next week and everyone is back to work after holidays so then we'll find out how much of the drag has just been the usual seasonal slowness and how much might be with us for longer.

porker 4y ago
Seeing the numbers in this thread (even for Germany) and comparing to the UK is frankly depressing. My experience matches everyone else in this sub-thread, £650/day for years and finally reached £700/day. But as these are short term projects it averages to less. For 15 years experience it's not great. I don't have the option to move to the US but I'd like to pick up US clients remotely. It's the only way I see to earn more.
- Silhouette 4y ago
  I don't have the option to move to the US but I'd like to pick up US clients remotely. We've (small UK development/consultancy shop) occasionally had US-based clients approach us about small projects. It's not something we'd actively explored until recently because of the potential legal and accounting complications. When we did finally look it turns out it's probably not so difficult after all though we haven't actually tried it for real yet. The rates that small outsourcing firms or individual contractors charge in the US are so much higher than the UK that a US client could get a bargain working with us while we could be charging much higher rates than we get from UK or European clients. Financially it's a situation where everyone could do well. I'm a bit surprised that we don't see more trans-Atlantic deals. Maybe a lack of awareness or concern around time zones means people don't really consider it an option? But even California is only an 8 hour gap so with almost everything being primarily remote and async today it should be possible to communicate effectively.

porker 4y ago

Seeing the numbers in this thread (even for Germany) and comparing to the UK is frankly depressing. My experience matches everyone else in this sub-thread, £650/day for years and finally reached £700/day. But as these are short term projects it averages to less. For 15 years experience it's not great. I don't have the option to move to the US but I'd like to pick up US clients remotely. It's the only way I see to earn more.

Silhouette 4y ago
I don't have the option to move to the US but I'd like to pick up US clients remotely. We've (small UK development/consultancy shop) occasionally had US-based clients approach us about small projects. It's not something we'd actively explored until recently because of the potential legal and accounting complications. When we did finally look it turns out it's probably not so difficult after all though we haven't actually tried it for real yet. The rates that small outsourcing firms or individual contractors charge in the US are so much higher than the UK that a US client could get a bargain working with us while we could be charging much higher rates than we get from UK or European clients. Financially it's a situation where everyone could do well. I'm a bit surprised that we don't see more trans-Atlantic deals. Maybe a lack of awareness or concern around time zones means people don't really consider it an option? But even California is only an 8 hour gap so with almost everything being primarily remote and async today it should be possible to communicate effectively.