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Other than Twitch (and maybe AWS, I don't know enough), none of those are monopoly or capable of anti-competition. Even twitch has youtube as alternative

foepys 4y ago
Just because there is one other competitor doesn't mean it's not a valid target for antitrust. If both were to cooperate and segment their markets in secret, it would be highly anticompetitive.
- shultays 4y ago
  True I guess, but hard to say that Twitch and Youtube is doing that. Even Steam is in this picture I think although they are less relevant maybe?
Cthulhu_ 4y ago
And Twitch can be replaced / surpassed. Its technology is nothing new, right now it mainly has critical mass due to the amount of people using it. It only takes one mistake for them to lose a lot of that engagement.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  > It only takes one mistake for them to lose a lot of that engagement. How true is this? Because YouTube and Google have made plenty of mistakes yet it continues to dominate.
  - friendzis 4y ago
    Youtube is a library, Twich is about live streaming, so in theory it is much easer to replace. However, critical mass is very hard to move, because platform switch would be revenue loss for streamers.
InsomniacL 4y ago
I didn't intend to mean they are the monopoly within their market segment but what's stopping Amazon from creating a game and locking others within their segment out 1) that's only available on Luna sold via Amazon 2) DLC only downloadable with Twitch participation/Prime membership 3) Amazon force EA to use AWS Instead of making their product compete with their 'competitors', they buy the customers (EA) and force them to use their product. At that point, taking AWS for example, GCP/Azure are no longer 'competitors' and if the end-consumer (me and you), want to play a title, we pay extra because there's no competition in the chain...
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foepys 4y ago

Just because there is one other competitor doesn't mean it's not a valid target for antitrust. If both were to cooperate and segment their markets in secret, it would be highly anticompetitive.

shultays 4y ago
True I guess, but hard to say that Twitch and Youtube is doing that. Even Steam is in this picture I think although they are less relevant maybe?

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

And Twitch can be replaced / surpassed. Its technology is nothing new, right now it mainly has critical mass due to the amount of people using it. It only takes one mistake for them to lose a lot of that engagement.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
> It only takes one mistake for them to lose a lot of that engagement. How true is this? Because YouTube and Google have made plenty of mistakes yet it continues to dominate.
- friendzis 4y ago
  Youtube is a library, Twich is about live streaming, so in theory it is much easer to replace. However, critical mass is very hard to move, because platform switch would be revenue loss for streamers.

InsomniacL 4y ago

I didn't intend to mean they are the monopoly within their market segment but what's stopping Amazon from creating a game and locking others within their segment out 1) that's only available on Luna sold via Amazon 2) DLC only downloadable with Twitch participation/Prime membership 3) Amazon force EA to use AWS Instead of making their product compete with their 'competitors', they buy the customers (EA) and force them to use their product. At that point, taking AWS for example, GCP/Azure are no longer 'competitors' and if the end-consumer (me and you), want to play a title, we pay extra because there's no competition in the chain...

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