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I see a good variety of EVs parked on the street here in Cambridge, MA, USA. There’s a decent local network of level 2 and 3 chargers that are regularly used t
by wffurr 4y ago
I see a good variety of EVs parked on the street here in Cambridge, MA, USA. There’s a decent local network of level 2 and 3 chargers that are regularly used to charge the cars, in the neighborhood and at various area workplaces. Some are owned by the city and only charge enough to break even on installation and electricity cost. Workplace ones are often subsidized by the employers as a side benefit.
Clearly it doesn’t work in all locations; yours being a prime example, but there are parts of the world where it’s feasible to own an EV without home charging.
- Yizahi 4y agoI'm currently in the eastern EU, and while there a lot of EVs on the roads, the infrastructure is not usable for my personal use there too. No chargers at homes or near homes, not even in the new apartment blocks. No chargers at work parkings. Honestly, I wonder how can EU ban selling ICE cars even in 10 years, if the infrastructure in so much lagging behind.
- badpun 4y ago> Honestly, I wonder how can EU ban selling ICE cars even in 10 years, if the infrastructure in so much lagging behind. They won't. I believe it's purely fiction.
- ianai 4y agoIt doesn’t take that long to wire up new electrical stuff. Just the will to do it. We’re talking 3.3kw to 6.6kw a drop unless it’s a fast charger. (Edit-the wider spread the slower chargers probably the lesser need for fast chargers, too.) 3.3kw is about 120v/27.5A. Not negligible but no one worries about hooking up hair driers to the grid and they draw tons of power. Reference the places putting chargers on light posts and similar.
- sokoloff 4y agoWhen's the last time someone and 10 of their neighbors dried their hair for 12 straight hours, though? It's not the instantaneous power draw from a single plug that people are worried about but rather the aggregate draw.
- ianai 4y agoFair, it’s maybe more like adding another appliance per household (fridge/freezer).
- trstregfsdgfd 4y agoMore like a tumble dryer, running almost continuously. Fridges/freezers, even huge US-sized ones, don't use that much power. I measured the average consumption of my under-counter fridge at less than 10W.
- ianai 4y agoThat’s an unfair comparison.
- trstregfsdgfd 4y agoWhy? Comparing the power consumption of an EV on charge to a fridge is a very unfair comparison. If you drive 200 EV miles per week, you need 60kWh per week, or about 360W continuous. At approx. 4.5kWh per cycle, that's 13 tumble dryer loads per week. Even that seems an unfair comparison - I'm not sure how many people run 2 loads per day every day. I was hyperbolic in my original comment, but that's still several hours of tumble drying every day.
- ianai 4y agoUsing hyperbolic arguments is not how to have a rational, well rounded discussion.
- trstregfsdgfd 4y agoColloquially, if I had a household that ran their tumble dryer twice a day every day, I might say it's "running almost continuously". Which domestic appliance do you think is a fair comparison to the power needs of an EV? As I've already pointed out, in a very rational way, you would have to be a very heavy user of your tumble dryer to make even that a fair comparison.