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https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/html/SB00797F.htm https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/html/SB00797F... This is the actual law, which f

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/html/SB00797F.htm https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/html/SB00797F... This is the actual law, which for some reason Washington post and other MSM refuse to link to. It looks like the law actually does require to display "in god we trust" (if given such a sign), but it would be nice for MSM to link to the original source.

rvz 4y ago
> but it would be nice for MSM to link to the original source. They won't link it since they are always starving for your clicks and outrage first before anything else.
someonenice 4y ago
>> SECTION 2. This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2021. I am not American - So strange that the act takes effect even if it does not receive the required votes, only a bit later. How does it work ?
- stonogo 4y ago
  It cites the source. Article 3, section 39: Sec. 39. TIME OF TAKING EFFECT OF LAWS. No law passed by the Legislature, except the general appropriation act, shall take effect or go into force until ninety days after the adjournment of the session at which it was enacted, unless the Legislature shall, by a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each House, otherwise direct; said vote to be taken by yeas and nays, and entered upon the journals. The goal here is for laws not to take people by surprise; when a law is passed, it's not active until ninety days has passed, so people have time to learn about the new law and adjust accordingly. If it is believed that an emergency needs the law to be enforced sooner, the Constitution provides a mechanism for that. In short, it does need the required votes to become law, but that is in this process a simple majority; a larger majority is required to bypass the 90-day delay.
  - yread 4y ago
    Thank God the Constitution provides a mechanism to get this emergency law take effect immediately to stop godless schools from throwing away framed posters!
defrost 4y ago
> The modern motto of the United States of America, as established in a 1956 law signed by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, is "In God we trust". > The constitutionality of the modern national motto has been questioned with relationship to the separation of church and state outlined in the First Amendment. > In 1970, in Aronow v. United States, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that the motto does not violate the First Amendment to the Constitution. The United States Supreme Court has not ruled on the issue. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_motto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_motto
- soco 4y ago
  I'm puzzled how forcing a religious quote doesn't go against religious freedom but I'm not American and probably missing the nuances.
  - akudha 4y ago
    In the current Supreme Court situation, I am not sure if they’d strike down this law, assuming a case against it reaches SC in the first place. Even if this law is challenged in court and is struck down, it is still a win for GOP. They riled up their base over a manufactured issue, diverted their base’s attention from actual issues. This is GOP politics 101 these days.
    - noasaservice 4y ago
      - Taniwha 4y ago
        It's not even 'old', the dems have been around a quarter century longer - as a name "GoP" is just propaganda
        noasaservice 4y ago
        Indeed. That's what I was trying to get to. I've actually met people who thought the GOP was good, and Republicans were bad because they didn't understand they were the same thing. Oh, its your turn - phase your lands out!
eesmith 4y ago
Okay, so schools have to display "a durable poster or framed copy" which meets the given criteria. (I read "a" as meaning the school isn't forced to display 10,000 such posters, should they be donated. Which a prankster totally would do.) What happens if each of 100 organizations donates a poster? What size does the poster need to be? When does a poster get taken down? Can it be replaced with another poster, should the school administration prefer the other one? What if I donate a 1"x1" poster to a school? If it doesn't currently have one, will they be forced to hang it in a conspicuous place? Can the administration use a 1"x1" donation as a reason to take down a larger one? What if the poster is 40×60 inches, but where the motto is in 6 point text?
- adwww 4y ago
  This was my immediate thought as well. Sounds like it might become a full time job to hang all the maliciously donated A1 posters.
  - bathtub365 4y ago
    They just won’t do it. Who is going to enforce the law, the conservative police?

rvz 4y ago

> but it would be nice for MSM to link to the original source. They won't link it since they are always starving for your clicks and outrage first before anything else.

someonenice 4y ago

>> SECTION 2. This Act takes effect immediately if it receives a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this Act takes effect September 1, 2021. I am not American - So strange that the act takes effect even if it does not receive the required votes, only a bit later. How does it work ?

stonogo 4y ago
It cites the source. Article 3, section 39: Sec. 39. TIME OF TAKING EFFECT OF LAWS. No law passed by the Legislature, except the general appropriation act, shall take effect or go into force until ninety days after the adjournment of the session at which it was enacted, unless the Legislature shall, by a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each House, otherwise direct; said vote to be taken by yeas and nays, and entered upon the journals. The goal here is for laws not to take people by surprise; when a law is passed, it's not active until ninety days has passed, so people have time to learn about the new law and adjust accordingly. If it is believed that an emergency needs the law to be enforced sooner, the Constitution provides a mechanism for that. In short, it does need the required votes to become law, but that is in this process a simple majority; a larger majority is required to bypass the 90-day delay.
- yread 4y ago
  Thank God the Constitution provides a mechanism to get this emergency law take effect immediately to stop godless schools from throwing away framed posters!

defrost 4y ago

> The modern motto of the United States of America, as established in a 1956 law signed by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, is "In God we trust". > The constitutionality of the modern national motto has been questioned with relationship to the separation of church and state outlined in the First Amendment. > In 1970, in Aronow v. United States, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that the motto does not violate the First Amendment to the Constitution. The United States Supreme Court has not ruled on the issue. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_motto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_motto

soco 4y ago
I'm puzzled how forcing a religious quote doesn't go against religious freedom but I'm not American and probably missing the nuances.
- akudha 4y ago
  In the current Supreme Court situation, I am not sure if they’d strike down this law, assuming a case against it reaches SC in the first place. Even if this law is challenged in court and is struck down, it is still a win for GOP. They riled up their base over a manufactured issue, diverted their base’s attention from actual issues. This is GOP politics 101 these days.
  - noasaservice 4y ago
    - Taniwha 4y ago
      It's not even 'old', the dems have been around a quarter century longer - as a name "GoP" is just propaganda
      - noasaservice 4y ago
        Indeed. That's what I was trying to get to. I've actually met people who thought the GOP was good, and Republicans were bad because they didn't understand they were the same thing. Oh, its your turn - phase your lands out!

eesmith 4y ago

Okay, so schools have to display "a durable poster or framed copy" which meets the given criteria. (I read "a" as meaning the school isn't forced to display 10,000 such posters, should they be donated. Which a prankster totally would do.) What happens if each of 100 organizations donates a poster? What size does the poster need to be? When does a poster get taken down? Can it be replaced with another poster, should the school administration prefer the other one? What if I donate a 1"x1" poster to a school? If it doesn't currently have one, will they be forced to hang it in a conspicuous place? Can the administration use a 1"x1" donation as a reason to take down a larger one? What if the poster is 40×60 inches, but where the motto is in 6 point text?

adwww 4y ago
This was my immediate thought as well. Sounds like it might become a full time job to hang all the maliciously donated A1 posters.
- bathtub365 4y ago
  They just won’t do it. Who is going to enforce the law, the conservative police?