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At first I loved LED street lights because I could see so much better by them (and I presume that they have an increased deterrent effect on crime though I have
by yrro 4y ago
At first I loved LED street lights because I could see so much better by them (and I presume that they have an increased deterrent effect on crime though I have not checked this).
These days I think disrupting wildlife is more important than human safety and I wish we could get rid of nearly all street lighting.
- cyborgx7 4y agoI wonder if the ubiquitousness of people carrying flashlights in the form of smartphones could be leveraged into doing away with street lights as an expected practice. I don't think I would actually support that, but I think that kind of shift in culture is a possibility right now.
- megous 4y agoIt can, but one would need a bit of a ettiquette to not point it into other people's faces. Pretty sure some people would use headlamps if it was necessary for everyone to bring their light source and that is plenty annoying.
- Beltalowda 4y agoMuch of the time using a flashlight is superfluous, or even counter-productive, if it's not pitch black, unless you have very poor night vision. Your eyes will never adjust to the dark and you will end up seeing less.
- neolithicum 4y agoReally? You think protecting wildlife is more important than human life? Also, less light might increase the frequency of road kills.
- yrro 4y agoYes, yes I do. We're doing incalculable damage to animal life (e.g., disrupting birds and insects which are essential pollinators for plants). This is but one facet of the crisis that our species has inflicted upon the planet.
- wickedsickeune 4y agoThe real problem is that the disruption to animal life will eventually affect human lives too, so you don't really have to choose.
- seba_dos1 4y agoThat's not what makes the problem "real" at all, even though you're technically right.
- neolithicum 4y agoBut why is that a problem? I do not disagree with you about the crisis (at all!), but the only reason we care is because we're human beings - because we defined this to immoral and also because it endangers human (and other) beings lives. IMO, I find it makes very little logical (and frankly also moral) sense to say as a human being that wildlife conservation is more important than the lives of other human beings. I know you're not saying quite the same, but this reminds me a bit of an "unpopular opinion" I came across once, which stated that people must die because there are too many people living on earth... (edit: formatting)
- seba_dos1 4y agoIn this scenario, the choice seems obvious. Humans can make informed decisions regarding their safety and apply measures to mitigate dangers, while wildlife affected by those lights can't.
- 7steps2much 4y agoBut wouldn't animals be able to adapt to a single, predictable light source that illuminates a certain area more easily than to an arbitrary number of individual light sources in an arbitrary number of configurations/angles moving around? That said, maybe one could equip street lights with a sensor so they don't need to run at all times?
- actionfromafar 4y agoOver a few millenia, certainly.