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> How about all the health care systems that didn't collapse and still don't make people poor. The article addresses health care. Did you have a rebuttal to it
by lukas099 4y ago
> How about all the health care systems that didn't collapse and still don't make people poor.
The article addresses health care. Did you have a rebuttal to its specific points?
> A traditional trump card for Western Europe has been the quality of its health-care systems. But the boasting here is not nearly as justified as it used to be.
> The pandemic revealed years of capital underinvestment in many of European health-care systems. Many Americans used to admire the UK’s National Health Service, but right now the whole system is ailing. There has been a labor and capital shortage, and a collapse of emergency health care services, which may be costing up to 500 excess (non-Covid) deaths a week. Similar problems exist throughout Europe, though they seem to be worst in the UK.
> The American hospital and health care system long has been good — too good — at making expensive, long-term investments in care and technology. Often this meant excess prices and not much of an improvement in basic care. But in the pandemic and post-pandemic environment, that feature of the system has kept US health care up and running. All that capital investment turns out to have been pretty useful in a major crisis.
- lopis 4y ago> The article addresses health care. Did you have a rebuttal to its specific points? Does it? All it says is how awesome and universal health care is in the US without going to any details. How about this for rebuttal: - Insurance is tied to your job; usually in EU it's a % of your income. - Even with insurance, a medical emergency in the US can often be a financial catastrophe, specially if you have the wrong coverage; - Chronic disease is a massive burden in the US and insurances only pay a small part of it. So yeah, it's getting better, but is it acceptable for those who don't earn 150k a year?
- herbst 4y agoOne thing many don't seem to care (or think) about is how your neighbors are doing. Sure health insurance is not cheap, however I also know that whoever feels I'll in this country is getting the help they need without money every standing in the way. If I see a person feeling bad on the streets, homeless or not, I just call an ambulance and he is taken care of. There are no implications, human health, whoever's health, is still the highest good. One reason Switzerland is so much safer than the US even thought we have nearly as much guns in private hands is because people get help when they need it.
- lukas099 4y agoJust FYI, I wasn't saying you were wrong or disagreeing. Thank you for addressing some of the points. What would you have to say about the author's contention that long-running American over-investment in health care kept the system up and running during the crisis, where European under-investment has led to excess deaths (especially in the UK, which the author claims has suffered 500 excess death/week because of this)?