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Ah yes, "it could be". An unrefutable and unprovable statement without proof. It's purely wishful thinking that nuclear power will become any easier in the futu

Ah yes, "it could be". An unrefutable and unprovable statement without proof. It's purely wishful thinking that nuclear power will become any easier in the future. Japan is not "overreacting", it has to clean up the damn mess not just to one day use that area again, but also to avoid spreading the contamination. Just because nobody dies immediately from the exposure doesn't mean the ground is safe to handle or live on. Case in point: The Russian soldiers in Tschernobyl digging in contaminated ground and spreading it further. Your point about a low immediate death count after Fukushima is just as dishonest, stupid and lazy: People would have had their lifes cut shorter by the radiation exposure, if they hadn't been evacuated at great cost. Most of your arguments are entire bullshit and I really don't have the time to waste. No, if one of the nuclear plants in Ukraine blows up, the effects are not "very local" and I suspect the locals do care. So should you when a nuclear plant near where you live goes online. Also the biggest nuclear plant in Europe is hurting Ukraine's defense just by sitting there and doing its job perfectly: The Russians discovered that they can shoot artillery from there without anyone shooting back. Nuclear plants are defensive weak points under any circumstance. A dirty bomb is a viable terror weapon. You can spread radioactive material quite far with an amount of explosives that wouldn't be able to cause near as much death and terror. Good deal, especially when you got the Plutonium and what not for free... People like you are lying through your teeth by saying the only alternative to nuclear is fossil fuels. I don't even know anyone who believes this. And no, we can't wait for nuclear power. A world full of nuclear power plants is unsafe. Maybe in Norway or Finland with the most honest and least corrupt governments (at presents) and no immediate threats from the outside it seems safe. But really, betting on nuclear power means betting on a perfect world during the next few decades at least. You just continue to profess to a profound ignorance on how radiation exposure work, what happened and is happening right now in Tschernobyl and Fukushima, and make hand wavy arguments "Such accidents are never going to happen and aren't actually that bad, for real this time, pinky promise with cherry on top".

Galaxeblaffer 4y ago
And you can just continue fear mongering trying to hold the world back further. The world is going nuclear wether you like it or not, America's biggest enemies Russia and China already have it big time and there's a very big limit to what countries America can hold back line they've tried to do with Iran. If anyone is had bullshit arguments it's you; you clearly haven't done any research into Tjernobyl and Fukushima and fear mongering about dirty bombs is just beyond stupid. Så thank you for ending the conversation. Glad the world has started moving on and had started seeing through bullshit like what you have presented in this argument. Write me back in 10 years and let's see what technology won.
- bayesian_horse 4y ago
  There's no evidence or reality to "nuclear is coming back". Some politicians talk a big talk, that's all. Nor did or do I say it's not going to happen, but in most of the developed/semi-developed world except China it's currently definitely not happening. Just another nuclear fanboy fantasy ignoring reality. You know who cares about dirty bombs? Every intelligence agency and counter terrorism unit in the world. So far it hasn't happened, but if nuclear power is scaled up, this stuff will be way more accessible. A lot like the gun violence problem in the US, but I guess the denialism around those topics is similar. I personally care most about the closest nuclear facilities, not so much those in China. And in reality, neither Tschernobyl nor Fukushima have been cleaned up yet and continue to be a problem to be felt financially at the very least. I know quite a bit about it, but some people apparently think it's only bad if you die instantly... But it certainly makes some weak arguments easier, doesn't it? Who cares about people losing decades of their life...

Galaxeblaffer 4y ago

And you can just continue fear mongering trying to hold the world back further. The world is going nuclear wether you like it or not, America's biggest enemies Russia and China already have it big time and there's a very big limit to what countries America can hold back line they've tried to do with Iran. If anyone is had bullshit arguments it's you; you clearly haven't done any research into Tjernobyl and Fukushima and fear mongering about dirty bombs is just beyond stupid. Så thank you for ending the conversation. Glad the world has started moving on and had started seeing through bullshit like what you have presented in this argument. Write me back in 10 years and let's see what technology won.

bayesian_horse 4y ago
There's no evidence or reality to "nuclear is coming back". Some politicians talk a big talk, that's all. Nor did or do I say it's not going to happen, but in most of the developed/semi-developed world except China it's currently definitely not happening. Just another nuclear fanboy fantasy ignoring reality. You know who cares about dirty bombs? Every intelligence agency and counter terrorism unit in the world. So far it hasn't happened, but if nuclear power is scaled up, this stuff will be way more accessible. A lot like the gun violence problem in the US, but I guess the denialism around those topics is similar. I personally care most about the closest nuclear facilities, not so much those in China. And in reality, neither Tschernobyl nor Fukushima have been cleaned up yet and continue to be a problem to be felt financially at the very least. I know quite a bit about it, but some people apparently think it's only bad if you die instantly... But it certainly makes some weak arguments easier, doesn't it? Who cares about people losing decades of their life...