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What alternative are you suggesting? That the public be lied to? Misled? "Despite report, this disease is not primarily spread by red hair people"?. Then wh

by refurb 4y ago

What alternative are you suggesting? That the public be lied to? Misled? "Despite report, this disease is not primarily spread by red hair people"?. Then what happens when the truth does get out? Who do you think the public believes then? It was pretty clear this approach was used during Covid. "You don't need to wear a mask", "Covid vaccines prevent infection" are just a couple claims that were made "for the public's own good". Then when people found out they were lied to, they were then skeptical of everything said thereafter. It's a terrible approach.

mike00632 4y ago
To be clear, vaccines do provide a degree of protection from infection. They also reduce the severity and likelyhood of transmission of diseases.
- refurb 4y ago
  The two major vaccines - Pfizer and Moderna, never tested for infection prevention. There was literally no data to even say if they did or didn't prevent infection. You can look up the clinical trial endpoints. Patients were only tested for infections if they experienced symptoms. I believe it was only AZ or J&J that regularly tested to capture any effect on infection rate. But it was stated several times "The vaccine will stop you from getting Covid". Why? Because if you tell people "Well, the vaccine won't stop you from getting it, but it will make it less likely you'll get really sick", they thought people wouldn't take it.
  - mike00632 4y ago
    I didn't mention COVID. You're focusing on COVID vaccines because that is the anti-vax cause at the moment. It's the case with ALL vaccines that they don't provide 100% protection. They are still incredibly useful for preventing infection, reducing the severity of disease and preventing further transmission. Btw, vaccines work by clearing infection quickly, not preventing infection. The virus infects you and begins to multiply. Whether your body has the antibodies to recognize the virus determines whether you will suffer from illness or be well.
    - refurb 4y ago
      Ok, but how is that relevant to my point which was about Covid?
      - mike00632 4y ago
        You suggested that the COVID vaccine was somehow bad for being like every other vaccine. I'm suggesting that you need to learn about vaccines and get vaccinated.

by refurb 4y ago

mike00632 4y ago

To be clear, vaccines do provide a degree of protection from infection. They also reduce the severity and likelyhood of transmission of diseases.

refurb 4y ago
The two major vaccines - Pfizer and Moderna, never tested for infection prevention. There was literally no data to even say if they did or didn't prevent infection. You can look up the clinical trial endpoints. Patients were only tested for infections if they experienced symptoms. I believe it was only AZ or J&J that regularly tested to capture any effect on infection rate. But it was stated several times "The vaccine will stop you from getting Covid". Why? Because if you tell people "Well, the vaccine won't stop you from getting it, but it will make it less likely you'll get really sick", they thought people wouldn't take it.
- mike00632 4y ago
  I didn't mention COVID. You're focusing on COVID vaccines because that is the anti-vax cause at the moment. It's the case with ALL vaccines that they don't provide 100% protection. They are still incredibly useful for preventing infection, reducing the severity of disease and preventing further transmission. Btw, vaccines work by clearing infection quickly, not preventing infection. The virus infects you and begins to multiply. Whether your body has the antibodies to recognize the virus determines whether you will suffer from illness or be well.
  - refurb 4y ago
    Ok, but how is that relevant to my point which was about Covid?
    - mike00632 4y ago
      You suggested that the COVID vaccine was somehow bad for being like every other vaccine. I'm suggesting that you need to learn about vaccines and get vaccinated.