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The subscription model means that the US government can shut my business down by instructing payment processors to stop taking payments from me, or heck even EM

The subscription model means that the US government can shut my business down by instructing payment processors to stop taking payments from me, or heck even EMV can do that on their own bat like they do for adult services. If you think the complaints about subscription models are because of the price, it’s you that needs to grow the fuck up, personally. Then there’s the SaaS model where my data is stored on US servers. If at any point the someone in the Internet decides to break BGP, sever an optical fibre, or any number of other shenanigans, I am left with what is effectively read-only access to my vaults. I have no option for self hosting to protect against hostile action between international parties that involves me or Agile Bits as collateral damage. We run our own optical fibre networks to ensure continuity of communications in the face of hostile/negligent behaviour, but with 1Password we do not have the option to host our own security. Then there’s data sovereignty. Agile Bits is a US company, and the US government has shown its willingness to spy and sabotage in the past. Whether it’s intercepting sensitive data in transit (echelon/airbus) or building weaknesses into encryption standards or installing malware on equipment in-transit or sabotaging chip fabs to produce less random RNG, the US has done that. There is no trust here. Agile Bits even put out a “survey” to gauge interest in self-hosting as a means of shutting down discourse on the topic. If there was any intention of supporting self-hosting they would just release a trial product which would be a great demonstration that their business continuity plan would work because self hosting would be the same as Agile Bits hosting. Just run the containers on your own docker instead of Agile Bits cloud. The most “entitled” comment here is yours, talking down to everyone else as if you are the only adult in the room.

moaf 4y ago
Not trying to be pedantic, but AgileBits is a Canadian company and has servers in Canada, the US, and the EU. I think they also released a gift card solution to address the concern of recurring payments, or maybe for privacy. I never really understood the use case for this (besides using it as an actual gift), but you made me think about it now. Having said all that, I think your points still stand, but for me I haven't found a company that is more trustworthy. FWIW, I use 1Password at work and KeepassXC at home.

moaf 4y ago

Not trying to be pedantic, but AgileBits is a Canadian company and has servers in Canada, the US, and the EU. I think they also released a gift card solution to address the concern of recurring payments, or maybe for privacy. I never really understood the use case for this (besides using it as an actual gift), but you made me think about it now. Having said all that, I think your points still stand, but for me I haven't found a company that is more trustworthy. FWIW, I use 1Password at work and KeepassXC at home.