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However, Haiku is gaining a ton of GNU/Linux software. It becomes less interesting to me when people are just porting the same junk to it. Serenity is far more

However, Haiku is gaining a ton of GNU/Linux software. It becomes less interesting to me when people are just porting the same junk to it. Serenity is far more interesting.

d_tr 4y ago
Serenity is still a very Unix-like OS though.
- BirAdam 4y ago
  It is, but it doesn’t use any of the existing open source software, which makes it fun, different, and interesting. Heck, just having a non-blink/non-webkit/non-goanna/non-gecko browser is cool.
  - d_tr 4y ago
    Agreed.
  - actuallyalys 4y ago
    Their ports system (which they didn't invent, of course) offers a pretty nice compromise of continuing their "everything from scratch" ethos while letting people have fun porting. And who knows, maybe the ports will allow it to be a practical OS someday.
nomdep 4y ago
I think Haiku biggest mistake was to try to be a regular desktop OS instead of focusing on a specific hardware like RaspberryPi.
- jackvalentine 4y ago
  In their defence they’ve been at it since 2002 before any of those fun little pieces of hardware existed.
  - rcarmo 4y ago
    Well, they were also quite hostile to the idea of targeting the Pi. I remember being involved in a forum discussion where it was dissed as a toy, another around ARM never being a relevant platform, and another about the Broadcom bits being proprietary. To this day, Haiku has been dragging its feet on the Pi (and yes, I know it’s a community effort, that it requires sponsorship, suitable volunteers, etc. - I’m just pointing out that they dropped the ball in even acknowledging the need for a port).
    - jackvalentine 4y ago
      ‘Need’ is a big word to use for something voluntary.
anthk 4y ago
Most of the Linux crap it's QT based, which looks good enough in any OS. For the rest there are some interesting native tools such as video editors. But Haiku needs 3 things to get more real life use cases: - GL/Vulkan for older Intel (both old and new) - Async USB - UVC webcams

However, Haiku is gaining a ton of GNU/Linux software. It becomes less interesting to me when people are just porting the same junk to it. Serenity is far more interesting.

d_tr 4y ago

Serenity is still a very Unix-like OS though.

BirAdam 4y ago
It is, but it doesn’t use any of the existing open source software, which makes it fun, different, and interesting. Heck, just having a non-blink/non-webkit/non-goanna/non-gecko browser is cool.
- d_tr 4y ago
  Agreed.
- actuallyalys 4y ago
  Their ports system (which they didn't invent, of course) offers a pretty nice compromise of continuing their "everything from scratch" ethos while letting people have fun porting. And who knows, maybe the ports will allow it to be a practical OS someday.

nomdep 4y ago

I think Haiku biggest mistake was to try to be a regular desktop OS instead of focusing on a specific hardware like RaspberryPi.

jackvalentine 4y ago
In their defence they’ve been at it since 2002 before any of those fun little pieces of hardware existed.
- rcarmo 4y ago
  Well, they were also quite hostile to the idea of targeting the Pi. I remember being involved in a forum discussion where it was dissed as a toy, another around ARM never being a relevant platform, and another about the Broadcom bits being proprietary. To this day, Haiku has been dragging its feet on the Pi (and yes, I know it’s a community effort, that it requires sponsorship, suitable volunteers, etc. - I’m just pointing out that they dropped the ball in even acknowledging the need for a port).
  - jackvalentine 4y ago
    ‘Need’ is a big word to use for something voluntary.

anthk 4y ago

Most of the Linux crap it's QT based, which looks good enough in any OS. For the rest there are some interesting native tools such as video editors. But Haiku needs 3 things to get more real life use cases: - GL/Vulkan for older Intel (both old and new) - Async USB - UVC webcams