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Thank you so much for this post. The hate they are getting over moving to Electron is, frankly, ridiculous. I'm a long-time customer and I'm finding 1Password 8

Thank you so much for this post. The hate they are getting over moving to Electron is, frankly, ridiculous. I'm a long-time customer and I'm finding 1Password 8 to be an awesome update and I don't notice that it's not purely "native" (whatever that means anymore). The reality is most users don't notice it because the app works great and electron/web views are actually really solid. The 1P team deserves credit for some of the solid UX improvements they've made as well!

mdaniel 4y ago
Spoken like someone who did not use the "drag this window on top of the QR code on your screen" feature, nor its ability to detect native application's bundle-id and fill in passwords based on the application currently in focus To include Windows users in this fun, previously one could invoke a hotkey and 1P would offer to auto-type into almost any Windows dialog on the screen. Poof, gone I bet I could come up with 15 other things if I thought about it. Engineering is filled with tradeoffs, and so they made the "we don't enjoy writing cross platform code" versus "we really made our user's lives better by having native code integration capabilities"
- gonehome 4y ago
  Yeah I agree, I like 1Password a lot, but also wish they kept the native app.
- yesimahuman 4y ago
  Just because they moved to electron for the core client doesn't mean they can't add native extensions to add those features back. It's still a fully native app they are building and shipping at the end of the day (just happens to do a lot more work in the web view). I suppose losing those features is a trade-off they made in order to get the rewrite done but wouldn't be surprised if they add in those features later. And the Windows app was in need of a serious update, the experience was not great. We can't pretend that engineering for different platforms has no overhead. If they can now move faster shipping new features to all platforms on day one, users will win. There is going to be a transition period where things aren't at parity yet and that's understandable.
  - tstrimple 4y ago
    > Just because they moved to electron for the core client doesn't mean they can't add native extensions to add those features back. So you admit they are removing features at the same price point, but are somehow still confused as to why some folks are upset?
- bwoodruff 4y ago
  > Spoken like someone who did not use the "drag this window on top of the QR code on your screen" feature This feature still exists, and it is even easier to use. You no longer have to drag any windows around. The QR code just has to be on screen and you press the button. :) If you're having trouble with it please reach out as we'd like to troubleshoot. > nor its ability to detect native application's bundle-id and fill in passwords based on the application currently in focus 1Password 7 didn't do this? It didn't fill in any 3rd party apps except browsers that had our browser extension installed. 1Password 8 actually not only detects these apps but also fills in them. https://support.1password.com/mac-universal-autofill/ https://support.1password.com/mac-universal-autofill/ If that is not working for you, please reach out. > To include Windows users in this fun, previously one could invoke a hotkey and 1P would offer to auto-type into almost any Windows dialog on the screen. Poof, gone Agreed. I miss the one too. I'm hopeful we're going to be able to bring it back soon. -Ben, 1Password

mdaniel 4y ago

Spoken like someone who did not use the "drag this window on top of the QR code on your screen" feature, nor its ability to detect native application's bundle-id and fill in passwords based on the application currently in focus To include Windows users in this fun, previously one could invoke a hotkey and 1P would offer to auto-type into almost any Windows dialog on the screen. Poof, gone I bet I could come up with 15 other things if I thought about it. Engineering is filled with tradeoffs, and so they made the "we don't enjoy writing cross platform code" versus "we really made our user's lives better by having native code integration capabilities"

gonehome 4y ago
Yeah I agree, I like 1Password a lot, but also wish they kept the native app.
yesimahuman 4y ago
Just because they moved to electron for the core client doesn't mean they can't add native extensions to add those features back. It's still a fully native app they are building and shipping at the end of the day (just happens to do a lot more work in the web view). I suppose losing those features is a trade-off they made in order to get the rewrite done but wouldn't be surprised if they add in those features later. And the Windows app was in need of a serious update, the experience was not great. We can't pretend that engineering for different platforms has no overhead. If they can now move faster shipping new features to all platforms on day one, users will win. There is going to be a transition period where things aren't at parity yet and that's understandable.
- tstrimple 4y ago
  > Just because they moved to electron for the core client doesn't mean they can't add native extensions to add those features back. So you admit they are removing features at the same price point, but are somehow still confused as to why some folks are upset?
bwoodruff 4y ago
> Spoken like someone who did not use the "drag this window on top of the QR code on your screen" feature This feature still exists, and it is even easier to use. You no longer have to drag any windows around. The QR code just has to be on screen and you press the button. :) If you're having trouble with it please reach out as we'd like to troubleshoot. > nor its ability to detect native application's bundle-id and fill in passwords based on the application currently in focus 1Password 7 didn't do this? It didn't fill in any 3rd party apps except browsers that had our browser extension installed. 1Password 8 actually not only detects these apps but also fills in them. https://support.1password.com/mac-universal-autofill/ https://support.1password.com/mac-universal-autofill/ If that is not working for you, please reach out. > To include Windows users in this fun, previously one could invoke a hotkey and 1P would offer to auto-type into almost any Windows dialog on the screen. Poof, gone Agreed. I miss the one too. I'm hopeful we're going to be able to bring it back soon. -Ben, 1Password