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I went through the process evaluating Bitwarden recently. It's a shame but it's many years behind 1Password and their roadmap doesn't really appear... hopeful t

I went through the process evaluating Bitwarden recently. It's a shame but it's many years behind 1Password and their roadmap doesn't really appear... hopeful towards catching up. I'm waiting for someone to actually build a better 1Password, learning from the mistakes, rather then migrating to something else right now.

mdaniel 4y ago
I feel the same way, and I'm firmly in the camp of "roll up my sleeves" if there is work to be done, but I have heartburn about doing that for Bitwarden for a few reasons: * their problem doesn't seem to be "we don't have developer bandwidth to add this nice feature," but rather (from my perspective) they're so lacking in discipline and execution. In other words, the PR to fix any such bugs would be so massive as it might as well be a fork * and that's just on the bugfix side -- anyone who thinks manually created folders are superior to tags ... well, there's no PR to fix that * them being open core(?) makes contributing feel like free labor for a commercial company. I have less heartburn contributing fixes to GitLab because they do have a for-real open source offering (the CE edition) that one can run without drama
- LelouBil 4y ago
  You can self host bitwarden very easily
csnweb 4y ago
I never tried 1password, but I am using Bitwarden right now. What features are important to you that Bitwarden is missing? Just wondering if I should give 1password a try as well.
Analemma_ 4y ago
What does 1Password have that Bitwarden is missing? I mentioned elsewhere in the thread that I just switched from 1Password to Bitwarden about a month ago, and apart from the lack of touch ID support on the desktop and the Large Type feature, which are only minor annoyances, Bitwarden has been just fine for me.
- dkonofalski 4y ago
  There's a lot that's missing. Someone else provided a list but there's a big chunk of things (like SSH keys) that aren't available in Bitwarden. Take this with a grain of salt, though, as my assessment is based on what I looked at last year.
ValentineC 4y ago
I'm a 1Password user, and the main thing that stopped me from using Bitwarden was them not having Account Switching. They've managed to implement it in their clients in March this year [1], and I've been moving some of my shared credentials over to a self-hosted Vaultwarden server. What other features do you think are missing from Bitwarden? [1] https://bitwarden.com/blog/account-switching-phased-rollout-for-bitwarden-clients/ https://bitwarden.com/blog/account-switching-phased-rollout-...
Alupis 4y ago
What features are missing specifically? As a happy paying (both corporate and personal) Bitwarden user, the only gripe I had was the lack of multiple-profiles on the same device (which was recently added and works great). We came from KeePass though, so we're likely a more "spartan" user of password managers than some.
- AnonC 4y ago
  Not GP. Custom items (like WiFi passwords, software licenses and many more). It’s been requested and promised with a “we’re working on it” for many years. If there’s one thing Bitwarden is, it’s very slow on developing features that users have asked for. Its focus on enterprise integration makes it seem like the actual product is not actively developed to improve it.
  - bwoodruff 4y ago
    We have templates for both software licenses and wireless routers. :) Custom templates have indeed been on the wish list for a long time. It has proven to be a much more difficult to deliver feature than anticipated. We actually built it, and it is in beta (available to 1Password Business memberships), but we couldn't get buy-in on the implementation. It is something I continue to advocate that we re-evaluate, but I couldn't say if or when it'll happen. -Ben, 1Password
- jeanloolz 4y ago
  Happy paying customer here as well. I would looooove to have email protection/relay service included to 1password. The synergy is real between those 2 services, and I would love to see it happening. EDIT: was unaware of it of 1password integration with Fastmail. This is actually possible.
dkonofalski 4y ago
That was the case in the past when I evaluated it as well but, as I mentioned in my post, trust is more important to me than features and flash. I can usually find workarounds for features and flash. I can't find workarounds for trust in a security-focused company.

mdaniel 4y ago

I feel the same way, and I'm firmly in the camp of "roll up my sleeves" if there is work to be done, but I have heartburn about doing that for Bitwarden for a few reasons: * their problem doesn't seem to be "we don't have developer bandwidth to add this nice feature," but rather (from my perspective) they're so lacking in discipline and execution. In other words, the PR to fix any such bugs would be so massive as it might as well be a fork * and that's just on the bugfix side -- anyone who thinks manually created folders are superior to tags ... well, there's no PR to fix that * them being open core(?) makes contributing feel like free labor for a commercial company. I have less heartburn contributing fixes to GitLab because they do have a for-real open source offering (the CE edition) that one can run without drama

LelouBil 4y ago
You can self host bitwarden very easily

csnweb 4y ago

I never tried 1password, but I am using Bitwarden right now. What features are important to you that Bitwarden is missing? Just wondering if I should give 1password a try as well.

Analemma_ 4y ago

What does 1Password have that Bitwarden is missing? I mentioned elsewhere in the thread that I just switched from 1Password to Bitwarden about a month ago, and apart from the lack of touch ID support on the desktop and the Large Type feature, which are only minor annoyances, Bitwarden has been just fine for me.

dkonofalski 4y ago
There's a lot that's missing. Someone else provided a list but there's a big chunk of things (like SSH keys) that aren't available in Bitwarden. Take this with a grain of salt, though, as my assessment is based on what I looked at last year.

ValentineC 4y ago

I'm a 1Password user, and the main thing that stopped me from using Bitwarden was them not having Account Switching. They've managed to implement it in their clients in March this year [1], and I've been moving some of my shared credentials over to a self-hosted Vaultwarden server. What other features do you think are missing from Bitwarden? [1] https://bitwarden.com/blog/account-switching-phased-rollout-for-bitwarden-clients/ https://bitwarden.com/blog/account-switching-phased-rollout-...

Alupis 4y ago

What features are missing specifically? As a happy paying (both corporate and personal) Bitwarden user, the only gripe I had was the lack of multiple-profiles on the same device (which was recently added and works great). We came from KeePass though, so we're likely a more "spartan" user of password managers than some.

AnonC 4y ago
Not GP. Custom items (like WiFi passwords, software licenses and many more). It’s been requested and promised with a “we’re working on it” for many years. If there’s one thing Bitwarden is, it’s very slow on developing features that users have asked for. Its focus on enterprise integration makes it seem like the actual product is not actively developed to improve it.
- bwoodruff 4y ago
  We have templates for both software licenses and wireless routers. :) Custom templates have indeed been on the wish list for a long time. It has proven to be a much more difficult to deliver feature than anticipated. We actually built it, and it is in beta (available to 1Password Business memberships), but we couldn't get buy-in on the implementation. It is something I continue to advocate that we re-evaluate, but I couldn't say if or when it'll happen. -Ben, 1Password
jeanloolz 4y ago
Happy paying customer here as well. I would looooove to have email protection/relay service included to 1password. The synergy is real between those 2 services, and I would love to see it happening. EDIT: was unaware of it of 1password integration with Fastmail. This is actually possible.

dkonofalski 4y ago

That was the case in the past when I evaluated it as well but, as I mentioned in my post, trust is more important to me than features and flash. I can usually find workarounds for features and flash. I can't find workarounds for trust in a security-focused company.