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>But we do.. Who is 'we' here? USA? Canada?

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
> >In the world we live in, this would be used to abort babies that don't pass the PGS to the vast majority of people who have this information. Same "we" as the line you responded to, and your own response.
- macspoofing 4y ago
  >Same "we" as the line you responded to, and your own response Is it the same? If China has a problem with abortion of female fetuses and I said "we" don't have that problem...does it sound like the same "we"?
  - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
    > >In the world we live in, this would be used to abort babies that don't pass the PGS to the vast majority of people who have this information. > Are you sure about that? So you asked this question to someone who said "In the world we live in", you actually meant "Are you sure that this thing that does happen in the world we live in will also happen in some unspecified nation that I live in". I don't think that's what you were asking, but if you where, why would you ask that?
gweinberg 4y ago
Obviously not. In those countries it's the male fetuses that are more likely to be aborted.
UIUC_06 4y ago
you said "If it is possible today, where are those mass abortions?" and he gave you the answer, notably China, the largest country in the world. So now you're saying you actually meant just North America?
- macspoofing 4y ago
  >So now you're saying you actually meant just North America I said "our society" isn't performing abortions on female fetuses - so clearly I must have meant China and India - the two societies that are? And yes, I want to know why "our society" isn't.
  - UIUC_06 4y ago
    OK, well, I guess you're right that "our society" does not value boys over girls as much as China and India. I don't really see the relevance if you're arguing "no, sex-selective abortions will not happen."
    - macspoofing 4y ago
      >I don't really see the relevance if you're arguing "no, sex-selective abortions will not happen." OP argued that there will be abortions based on sexual orientation as a justification for hiding research results from the public. As one of my counter-arguments, I argued that this isn't inevitable by providing a counter-example of lack of sex-selective abortions in most of the world (specifically the society I grew up in).

> >In the world we live in, this would be used to abort babies that don't pass the PGS to the vast majority of people who have this information. Same "we" as the line you responded to, and your own response.

macspoofing 4y ago
>Same "we" as the line you responded to, and your own response Is it the same? If China has a problem with abortion of female fetuses and I said "we" don't have that problem...does it sound like the same "we"?
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  > >In the world we live in, this would be used to abort babies that don't pass the PGS to the vast majority of people who have this information. > Are you sure about that? So you asked this question to someone who said "In the world we live in", you actually meant "Are you sure that this thing that does happen in the world we live in will also happen in some unspecified nation that I live in". I don't think that's what you were asking, but if you where, why would you ask that?

gweinberg 4y ago

Obviously not. In those countries it's the male fetuses that are more likely to be aborted.

UIUC_06 4y ago

you said "If it is possible today, where are those mass abortions?" and he gave you the answer, notably China, the largest country in the world. So now you're saying you actually meant just North America?

macspoofing 4y ago
>So now you're saying you actually meant just North America I said "our society" isn't performing abortions on female fetuses - so clearly I must have meant China and India - the two societies that are? And yes, I want to know why "our society" isn't.
- UIUC_06 4y ago
  OK, well, I guess you're right that "our society" does not value boys over girls as much as China and India. I don't really see the relevance if you're arguing "no, sex-selective abortions will not happen."
  - macspoofing 4y ago
    >I don't really see the relevance if you're arguing "no, sex-selective abortions will not happen." OP argued that there will be abortions based on sexual orientation as a justification for hiding research results from the public. As one of my counter-arguments, I argued that this isn't inevitable by providing a counter-example of lack of sex-selective abortions in most of the world (specifically the society I grew up in).