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I don't think military R&D produces many academic papers, but anything going in a journal a foreign national can just buy should probably also be made available

by jjk166 4y ago

I don't think military R&D produces many academic papers, but anything going in a journal a foreign national can just buy should probably also be made available to the tax payer.

mattkrause 4y ago
It does! DARPA is probably the best-known route and funds a lot of academic and corporate research (including, for a while, me). The DoD also has a bunch of other grant-making programs (Office of Naval Research, Congressionally-directed Medical Research Program, etc) and also labs that directly do research themselves. The Air Force has a big research center (AFRL) in Ohio; the army has one in Maryland (ARL), and the Navy has one in DC (NRL). There are loads of other sites as well: the army has a night vision research lab in New Jersey, for example, and the Navy has some marine mammal stuff on the West Coast. A lot of this work--even the stuff done at DoD labs--winds up in open literature. By policy all of that is supposed to be publicly available, so you can browse it here https://discover.dtic.mil/products-services/ https://discover.dtic.mil/products-services/.
- jjk166 4y ago
  I'm not referring to military funded research, I'm referring to military R&D as an academic discipline, in the same way one would refer to something like medical research.
hervature 4y ago
> I don't think military R&D produces many academic papers Do you mean researchers employed by the military? Otherwise, basically half of every STEM professor I encountered had funding via some branch of the military.
- jjk166 4y ago
  I mean military as an academic field. The stuff that people might conceivably be worried about making publicly available and thus want exempted.
nl 4y ago
The US military funds a lot of basic and applied research that is openly published. DARPA is one agency that does this. But separately there is classified research that isn't published.
- jjk166 4y ago
  I am referring military R&D as an academic topic, not a funding source. So the classified stuff.
  - nl 4y ago
    I don't understand the distinction you are making. Take a new program like "FELIX" - simplifying ways of checking for bioengineered threats. IARPA funds that, and the research funded through that program can be found here: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=N66001-18-24502%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4503%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4504%2BOR%2BN66001-18-24505%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4506%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4507&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=N66... From the look of it they funded 9 companies and institutions to do the research and their poster presentations can be found at the bottom of [1]. [1] https://www.iarpa.gov/research-programs/felix https://www.iarpa.gov/research-programs/felix

by jjk166 4y ago

I don't think military R&D produces many academic papers, but anything going in a journal a foreign national can just buy should probably also be made available to the tax payer.

mattkrause 4y ago

It does! DARPA is probably the best-known route and funds a lot of academic and corporate research (including, for a while, me). The DoD also has a bunch of other grant-making programs (Office of Naval Research, Congressionally-directed Medical Research Program, etc) and also labs that directly do research themselves. The Air Force has a big research center (AFRL) in Ohio; the army has one in Maryland (ARL), and the Navy has one in DC (NRL). There are loads of other sites as well: the army has a night vision research lab in New Jersey, for example, and the Navy has some marine mammal stuff on the West Coast. A lot of this work--even the stuff done at DoD labs--winds up in open literature. By policy all of that is supposed to be publicly available, so you can browse it here https://discover.dtic.mil/products-services/ https://discover.dtic.mil/products-services/.

jjk166 4y ago
I'm not referring to military funded research, I'm referring to military R&D as an academic discipline, in the same way one would refer to something like medical research.

hervature 4y ago

> I don't think military R&D produces many academic papers Do you mean researchers employed by the military? Otherwise, basically half of every STEM professor I encountered had funding via some branch of the military.

jjk166 4y ago
I mean military as an academic field. The stuff that people might conceivably be worried about making publicly available and thus want exempted.

nl 4y ago

The US military funds a lot of basic and applied research that is openly published. DARPA is one agency that does this. But separately there is classified research that isn't published.

jjk166 4y ago
I am referring military R&D as an academic topic, not a funding source. So the classified stuff.
- nl 4y ago
  I don't understand the distinction you are making. Take a new program like "FELIX" - simplifying ways of checking for bioengineered threats. IARPA funds that, and the research funded through that program can be found here: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=N66001-18-24502%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4503%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4504%2BOR%2BN66001-18-24505%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4506%2BOR%2BN66001-18-C-4507&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C47&q=N66... From the look of it they funded 9 companies and institutions to do the research and their poster presentations can be found at the bottom of [1]. [1] https://www.iarpa.gov/research-programs/felix https://www.iarpa.gov/research-programs/felix