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>…not much existing software was working [lists a few nerdy dev tools used by 0.01% of the Mac user bsse]…

by simonh 4y ago

School-Cotton 4y ago
Surely software developers (and other people using x86-only software like Photoshop) are more than 0.01% of the mac user base. Apple has specifically said that vim users are the reason they put back the physical escape key…
- KerrAvon 4y ago
  Photoshop worked on M1 on day 1. What is the argument even about here? Someone is upset that all software developers didn’t port everything to M1 overnight?
  - rvz 4y ago
    > Photoshop worked on M1 on day 1. Complete and absolute nonsense. From [0]: As of March 2021, Photoshop now runs natively on Apple computers using the Apple Silicon M1 chip with 1.5X the speed of similarly configured previous generation systems. Even before that it wasn't supported or designed to run on M1, hence the frequent crashes and freezing users were getting. Therefore, it wasn't working. So how exactly is waiting until March 2021 for a stable M1 version of Photoshop, "working on day 1"? [0] https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/kb/photoshop-for-apple-silicon.html https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/kb/photoshop-for-apple-...
    - hnaccount_rng 4y ago
      Working != being a native app. The latter may be an interesting technical detail, but absolutely no user of the app will really care. They care about “does it open and not crash” (which _everything_ did b/c Rosetta) and - in a very distant second place - is it faster than before (which it also was). So no: There was no one saying “but no software works”
      - drw85 4y ago
        This is just nonsense, there is tons of performance critical software. A lot that hasn't been ported to native still doesn't run properly or at all. DAWs that run on rosetta have many problems with VST plugins and performance. Just because something opens and doesn't crash, doesn't mean it works properly at all.
- worthless-trash 4y ago
  > Apple has specifically said that vim users are the reason they put back the physical escape key… Do you have a source for this ?
  - School-Cotton 4y ago
    I’m pretty sure I saw this somewhere, but now I can’t find it, so I accept the possibility (though I think it’s low probability) that I’m misremembering.
    - worthless-trash 4y ago
      I thought the same thing, but I can't find the source. Bernstein bear effect.
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rvz 4y ago
- KerrAvon 4y ago

>…not much existing software was working [lists a few nerdy dev tools used by 0.01% of the Mac user bsse]…

by simonh 4y ago

>…not much existing software was working [lists a few nerdy dev tools used by 0.01% of the Mac user bsse]…

Surely software developers (and other people using x86-only software like Photoshop) are more than 0.01% of the mac user base. Apple has specifically said that vim users are the reason they put back the physical escape key…

KerrAvon 4y ago
Photoshop worked on M1 on day 1. What is the argument even about here? Someone is upset that all software developers didn’t port everything to M1 overnight?
- rvz 4y ago
  > Photoshop worked on M1 on day 1. Complete and absolute nonsense. From [0]: As of March 2021, Photoshop now runs natively on Apple computers using the Apple Silicon M1 chip with 1.5X the speed of similarly configured previous generation systems. Even before that it wasn't supported or designed to run on M1, hence the frequent crashes and freezing users were getting. Therefore, it wasn't working. So how exactly is waiting until March 2021 for a stable M1 version of Photoshop, "working on day 1"? [0] https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/kb/photoshop-for-apple-silicon.html https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/kb/photoshop-for-apple-...
  - hnaccount_rng 4y ago
    Working != being a native app. The latter may be an interesting technical detail, but absolutely no user of the app will really care. They care about “does it open and not crash” (which _everything_ did b/c Rosetta) and - in a very distant second place - is it faster than before (which it also was). So no: There was no one saying “but no software works”
    - drw85 4y ago
      This is just nonsense, there is tons of performance critical software. A lot that hasn't been ported to native still doesn't run properly or at all. DAWs that run on rosetta have many problems with VST plugins and performance. Just because something opens and doesn't crash, doesn't mean it works properly at all.
worthless-trash 4y ago
> Apple has specifically said that vim users are the reason they put back the physical escape key… Do you have a source for this ?
- School-Cotton 4y ago
  I’m pretty sure I saw this somewhere, but now I can’t find it, so I accept the possibility (though I think it’s low probability) that I’m misremembering.
  - worthless-trash 4y ago
    I thought the same thing, but I can't find the source. Bernstein bear effect.
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rvz 4y ago

KerrAvon 4y ago