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While we're about Tesla: I yesterday submitted the reddit link [1] with title "Tesla Model S got totaled from FSD by swerving into a guard rail". The title is s

While we're about Tesla: I yesterday submitted the reddit link [1] with title "Tesla Model S got totaled from FSD by swerving into a guard rail". The title is short version of reddit post title, and the reddit post itself is user testimonial with accompanying video. The post immediately got flagged. What did I do wrong? [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/wvdbtv/my_tesla_model_s_got_totaled_from_full/ https://old.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/wvdbtv/my_tesla_...

nomel 4y ago
> What did I do wrong? One could claim that you let some of the only unregulated, uncertified, safety critical software in existence, drive your car. Can anyone give an example of other completely unregulated safety critical software out there? For some extreme contrast, see the basic requirements for a traffic light [1]. Other good examples are elevator control, aircraft autopilot, and basically anything that hooks up to a human, in a hospital, containing a microcontroller. The NHTSA seems to be slowly waking up to the need for safety regulations [2]. 1. https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop06006/chapter_12.htm https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop06006/chapter_1... 2. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/automakers-now-required-to-report-automation-related-crashes-a3894720173/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/automakers-now-re...
- ra7 4y ago
  I think they are talking about submitting the Reddit post to HN and the HN post being immediately flagged. I’ve also noticed posts critical of Tesla usually get demoted from the front page quickly even though they generate a lot of discussion and have votes. I don’t know if that’s because of constant flagging too.
lm28469 4y ago
What a shit show, glad you made it unharmed. After going through something like this do you feel you could ever trust a self driving car in their current state ?
tlb 4y ago
"Particular Kind of Car Crashes" is not that interesting a story when there are millions of that kind of car on the road. A good statistical analysis of crash rates across version of autopilots would be interesting, but individual anecdotes aren't. Stories about individual occurrences of things that happen with some frequency don't usually result in good HN discussions. Just partisan battles of "this always happens!" vs. "this almost never happens!"
tsol 4y ago
Your experience on a given subreddit is very much based on who the mods are. And as it turns out, many of them are a pain in the ass. In most of the bigger subs if you disagree with the wrong thing you're liable to get banned. Probably has something to do with them being volunteers, and the fact that a lot of them mod sometime dozens of different subs
kklisura 4y ago
Just to clear things up as I'm seeing some misunderstanding in comments: I have submitted the reddit link to HN and it got flagged there. Also, I am not the the user in the reddit post which experienced the crash.

nomel 4y ago

> What did I do wrong? One could claim that you let some of the only unregulated, uncertified, safety critical software in existence, drive your car. Can anyone give an example of other completely unregulated safety critical software out there? For some extreme contrast, see the basic requirements for a traffic light [1]. Other good examples are elevator control, aircraft autopilot, and basically anything that hooks up to a human, in a hospital, containing a microcontroller. The NHTSA seems to be slowly waking up to the need for safety regulations [2]. 1. https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop06006/chapter_12.htm https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop06006/chapter_1... 2. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/automakers-now-required-to-report-automation-related-crashes-a3894720173/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/automakers-now-re...

ra7 4y ago
I think they are talking about submitting the Reddit post to HN and the HN post being immediately flagged. I’ve also noticed posts critical of Tesla usually get demoted from the front page quickly even though they generate a lot of discussion and have votes. I don’t know if that’s because of constant flagging too.

lm28469 4y ago

What a shit show, glad you made it unharmed. After going through something like this do you feel you could ever trust a self driving car in their current state ?

tlb 4y ago

"Particular Kind of Car Crashes" is not that interesting a story when there are millions of that kind of car on the road. A good statistical analysis of crash rates across version of autopilots would be interesting, but individual anecdotes aren't. Stories about individual occurrences of things that happen with some frequency don't usually result in good HN discussions. Just partisan battles of "this always happens!" vs. "this almost never happens!"

tsol 4y ago

Your experience on a given subreddit is very much based on who the mods are. And as it turns out, many of them are a pain in the ass. In most of the bigger subs if you disagree with the wrong thing you're liable to get banned. Probably has something to do with them being volunteers, and the fact that a lot of them mod sometime dozens of different subs

kklisura 4y ago

Just to clear things up as I'm seeing some misunderstanding in comments: I have submitted the reddit link to HN and it got flagged there. Also, I am not the the user in the reddit post which experienced the crash.