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For just the hosting, maybe. But there's so much more Heroku does, from spinning up test environments for PRs to storing secret keys (across different repos) to
by gkoberger 4y ago
For just the hosting, maybe. But there's so much more Heroku does, from spinning up test environments for PRs to storing secret keys (across different repos) to being a CI to monitoring to... so so much more.
- MuffinFlavored 4y ago> from spinning up test environments for PRs Hooking up some kind of CI/CD to GitHub through webhooks > storing secret keys Built into GitHub (or an instance of Hashicorp Vault which can be hosted for free) > to monitoring Can run your own Grafana/Promtheus Obviously there's a cost running all of this yourself as opposed to just paying them to do it. Just making sure I wasn't missing something obvious tradeoff wise between "our company would rather pay somebody to manage all of this for us"
- laundermaf 4y agoYeah of course you can do it all by yourself. You just need a server online. Services like Herokus are useful because they save hundreds of hours of sysops.
- MuffinFlavored 4y ago> Services like Herokus are useful because they save hundreds of hours of sysops. Which they know, and can charge you accordingly for, right? If a single sysop engineer cost $100k/yr (without anybody managing them), they can charge you $50k/yr to replace them and it'd still be a steal, right?
- lolinder 4y agoAssuming they have no competition, yes. But now they're not just competing with sysops, they're also completing with a bunch of other app platforms. None of the others are quite as full featured, but if the competitors can save 80% of the sysops time at 20% of the cost, Heroku will see people switching away.
- gkoberger 4y agoI think you just proved my point, no? I don't want to do any of this; I want to pay someone to do it.