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That's a disingenuous take if I've ever seen one. The same people who have been pushing for overturning Roe have stated their next target is a federal ban. Acti

That's a disingenuous take if I've ever seen one. The same people who have been pushing for overturning Roe have stated their next target is a federal ban. Acting like there isn't a concerted effort to do so by people in positions of power, is just burying your head in the sand.

Auracle 4y ago
Sure. There are also people that want to make abortion legal all the way up to delivery. There are people that want to completely ban guns. There are people that want to throw our borders completely open and those that want to completely close them. There are political advocates for basically every extreme there is. Most of the time extremes are unpalatable to voters so we end up somewhere in the middle while the politicians make big talk to rile up their base.
- sleepymoose 4y ago
  >There are also people that want to make abortion legal all the way up to delivery. Genuinely curious, because I've never understood this part. What does a "just before delivery" abortion entail? Do they do a C-section and give the baby a lethal injection or what?
  - homonculus1 4y ago
    They deliver the baby halfway through the cervix and then crush its head.
  - _-david-_ 4y ago
    They will sometimes lethally inject the baby, but other times will not. I think injection is required in the US. If they do not inject the baby first it is considered a partial birth abortion. Typically, they will flip the baby around and pull out everything except the head. They will cut open the neck/head area and suction all the brain material so they can crush the head and more easily extract it. They typically (always?) have to dilate the cervix. I don't think they will do it through c section unless there is a medical reason.
Grim-444 4y ago
Their entire argument is that the federal government has no business mandating whether abortions should be legal or not and that it should be left up to the states. You think that the very same people making this argument are then going to have the government mandate abortion be illegal?
_-david-_ 4y ago
A federal ban has nothing to do with totality. Any federal ban will include an exception for medical reasons and may include a rape exception as well. That is hardly a "total" ban. As far as I know no country has a total ban and there isn't any significant effort in any country to introduce one. Maybe you could provide an example where there is a total ban?

Auracle 4y ago

Sure. There are also people that want to make abortion legal all the way up to delivery. There are people that want to completely ban guns. There are people that want to throw our borders completely open and those that want to completely close them. There are political advocates for basically every extreme there is. Most of the time extremes are unpalatable to voters so we end up somewhere in the middle while the politicians make big talk to rile up their base.

sleepymoose 4y ago
>There are also people that want to make abortion legal all the way up to delivery. Genuinely curious, because I've never understood this part. What does a "just before delivery" abortion entail? Do they do a C-section and give the baby a lethal injection or what?
- homonculus1 4y ago
  They deliver the baby halfway through the cervix and then crush its head.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  They will sometimes lethally inject the baby, but other times will not. I think injection is required in the US. If they do not inject the baby first it is considered a partial birth abortion. Typically, they will flip the baby around and pull out everything except the head. They will cut open the neck/head area and suction all the brain material so they can crush the head and more easily extract it. They typically (always?) have to dilate the cervix. I don't think they will do it through c section unless there is a medical reason.

Grim-444 4y ago

Their entire argument is that the federal government has no business mandating whether abortions should be legal or not and that it should be left up to the states. You think that the very same people making this argument are then going to have the government mandate abortion be illegal?

_-david-_ 4y ago

A federal ban has nothing to do with totality. Any federal ban will include an exception for medical reasons and may include a rape exception as well. That is hardly a "total" ban. As far as I know no country has a total ban and there isn't any significant effort in any country to introduce one. Maybe you could provide an example where there is a total ban?