> Living abroad has shown me cities, significantly more dense than the US, that are neither noisy or unsafe Just because you can find quiet isolated pockets in

> Living abroad has shown me cities, significantly more dense than the US, that are neither noisy or unsafe Just because you can find quiet isolated pockets in any given city doesn't mean the rest of it is like that. All cities are loud and require being very aware of your surroundings, some more than others. I've spent months traveling through many European cities and been victim of crime and saw a lot of crime. As for being quiet, that's ridiculous. There are still tons of cars and constant construction even in the most walkable cities. Even in Venice where there are no cars it's pretty loud until you wander off into some back walkways.