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Remember a few months ago when Elon Musk claimed to be a "free speech maximalist"?

by smt88 4y ago

Thetawaves 4y ago
I'm going to repeat a perception I saw on here that seems to ring true. We all know Tesla/Elon is 69% full of shit.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  Say it louder, plenty of people right here on this board still deny this.
goatcode 4y ago
I'm of the position that speech we don't like should be countered with more speech. Therefore, I'd look forward to airing all the dirty laundry of every other EV manufacturer.
- gamblor956 4y ago
  It already is...in detail, by the newspapers and news shows all the time. The difference is that other car makers don't claim to be saving the world, nor do their CEOs claim to be "free speech maximalists," nor do they go crying to their followers every time they or their company gets even the slightest bit of criticism.
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  - goatcode 4y ago
    I've honestly never heard any story pushed as much as are the Tesla ones. Maybe it's just there isn't as venomous anti-following attached to other manufacturers as there is to Tesla.
    - gamblor956 4y ago
      The media doesn't push the stories because they're just regular news stories. Tesla deliberately seeks out media attention, so Tesla stories attract more attention. Live by the sword, die by the sword, and all that.
      - rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago
        >Tesla deliberately seeks out media attention, so Tesla stories attract more attention. Live by the sword, die by the sword, and all that. Tesla also does not pay media a dime. All the other auto manufacturers do via auto ads, in hundreds of $ per vehicle sold. Some also own newspapers directly! Publishers will do everything to favor their paying customers and make the others interested in getting more favorable coverage.
        clouddrover 4y ago
        Sure. It's all a big conspiracy. Here, watch some Tesla ads and be happy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMtONBK8dY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMtONBK8dY Look at the little panda!
mlindner 4y ago
When did he use the words "maximalist"? I think the term he used was "absolutist". However I don't get how libel is covered under free speech. It's one of the few forms of speech in the US that is not protected.
- smt88 4y ago
  A video of someone operating a Tesla is not and cannot be libel. That is ridiculous. He has said both maximalist and absolutist[1]. 1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/18/musk-twitter-free-speech/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/18/musk-tw...

Remember a few months ago when Elon Musk claimed to be a "free speech maximalist"?

by smt88 4y ago

Remember a few months ago when Elon Musk claimed to be a "free speech maximalist"?

Thetawaves 4y ago

I'm going to repeat a perception I saw on here that seems to ring true. We all know Tesla/Elon is 69% full of shit.

mrguyorama 4y ago
Say it louder, plenty of people right here on this board still deny this.

goatcode 4y ago

I'm of the position that speech we don't like should be countered with more speech. Therefore, I'd look forward to airing all the dirty laundry of every other EV manufacturer.

gamblor956 4y ago
It already is...in detail, by the newspapers and news shows all the time. The difference is that other car makers don't claim to be saving the world, nor do their CEOs claim to be "free speech maximalists," nor do they go crying to their followers every time they or their company gets even the slightest bit of criticism.
- deleted 4y ago
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- goatcode 4y ago
  I've honestly never heard any story pushed as much as are the Tesla ones. Maybe it's just there isn't as venomous anti-following attached to other manufacturers as there is to Tesla.
  - gamblor956 4y ago
    The media doesn't push the stories because they're just regular news stories. Tesla deliberately seeks out media attention, so Tesla stories attract more attention. Live by the sword, die by the sword, and all that.
    - rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago
      >Tesla deliberately seeks out media attention, so Tesla stories attract more attention. Live by the sword, die by the sword, and all that. Tesla also does not pay media a dime. All the other auto manufacturers do via auto ads, in hundreds of $ per vehicle sold. Some also own newspapers directly! Publishers will do everything to favor their paying customers and make the others interested in getting more favorable coverage.
      - clouddrover 4y ago
        Sure. It's all a big conspiracy. Here, watch some Tesla ads and be happy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMtONBK8dY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMtONBK8dY Look at the little panda!

mlindner 4y ago

When did he use the words "maximalist"? I think the term he used was "absolutist". However I don't get how libel is covered under free speech. It's one of the few forms of speech in the US that is not protected.

smt88 4y ago
A video of someone operating a Tesla is not and cannot be libel. That is ridiculous. He has said both maximalist and absolutist[1]. 1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/18/musk-twitter-free-speech/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/18/musk-tw...