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> I lived in New York City my entire life and I am now wanting a house. I am tired of living in an apartment building. This idea that people live together commu

by tmh88j 4y ago

> I lived in New York City my entire life and I am now wanting a house. I am tired of living in an apartment building. This idea that people live together communally within buildings or neighborhoods is very overrated. I feel the same way. I grew up in an urban environment, moved to rural areas, now back in an urban environment. I can't wait to get out of here. Too many people, too much noise and too much energy spent looking over your shoulder. I don't understand the desire to be around people just for the sake of it. I'd rather live on the quiet "un-walkable" outskirts or suburbs of a city and occasionally go in if I need to. More than anything I hate the lack of privacy that comes with city life.

trgn 4y ago
> too much noise and too much energy spent looking over your shoulder. That's the bane of american cities. They're noisy, and sociopathy is tolerated by the authorities. Living abroad has shown me cities, significantly more dense than the US, that are neither noisy or unsafe. Walkable cities can be quiet, almost eerily so. America needs more urban environments like that.
- tmh88j 4y ago
  > Living abroad has shown me cities, significantly more dense than the US, that are neither noisy or unsafe Just because you can find quiet isolated pockets in any given city doesn't mean the rest of it is like that. All cities are loud and require being very aware of your surroundings, some more than others. I've spent months traveling through many European cities and been victim of crime and saw a lot of crime. As for being quiet, that's ridiculous. There are still tons of cars and constant construction even in the most walkable cities. Even in Venice where there are no cars it's pretty loud until you wander off into some back walkways.
  - trgn 4y ago
    I guess we were in different places.
    - tmh88j 4y ago
      What cities are you referring to? Surely not the larger ones like London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, etc...
      - trgn 4y ago
        Yeah, certainly, they were smaller. Lived for a number of years in Ghent and Leuven. Like living in a palace. There's nothing that compares to it here. :(
vangelis 4y ago
Pitbulls should be designated the fifth pest. It would go a long way towards making cities safer to walk and bike.
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
There is a middle ground. Walkable suburbs were commonplace in the pre-war era.
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by tmh88j 4y ago

trgn 4y ago

> too much noise and too much energy spent looking over your shoulder. That's the bane of american cities. They're noisy, and sociopathy is tolerated by the authorities. Living abroad has shown me cities, significantly more dense than the US, that are neither noisy or unsafe. Walkable cities can be quiet, almost eerily so. America needs more urban environments like that.

tmh88j 4y ago
> Living abroad has shown me cities, significantly more dense than the US, that are neither noisy or unsafe Just because you can find quiet isolated pockets in any given city doesn't mean the rest of it is like that. All cities are loud and require being very aware of your surroundings, some more than others. I've spent months traveling through many European cities and been victim of crime and saw a lot of crime. As for being quiet, that's ridiculous. There are still tons of cars and constant construction even in the most walkable cities. Even in Venice where there are no cars it's pretty loud until you wander off into some back walkways.
- trgn 4y ago
  I guess we were in different places.
  - tmh88j 4y ago
    What cities are you referring to? Surely not the larger ones like London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, etc...
    - trgn 4y ago
      Yeah, certainly, they were smaller. Lived for a number of years in Ghent and Leuven. Like living in a palace. There's nothing that compares to it here. :(

vangelis 4y ago

Pitbulls should be designated the fifth pest. It would go a long way towards making cities safer to walk and bike.

kevin_thibedeau 4y ago

There is a middle ground. Walkable suburbs were commonplace in the pre-war era.

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