We might be missing each other's points! In suburbs, those stroads are essential to get people from place to place. IMO that "essential" ends at the edge of a

We might be missing each other's points! In suburbs, those stroads are essential to get people from place to place. IMO that "essential" ends at the edge of a city -- at high density, cars selfishly dominate public spaces, and actually detract from that environment's utility. It's a scalability problem; single occupancy cars can only move so much meat. Walking + biking + transit can move a lot more meat in a dense space. I think a lot of people do want those suburban environments even today. I'm not sure many people want today's US city center environment that has been compromised by the car.