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So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life

So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider seems like a bad business decision at this point. You are just begging to have the rug pulled out from under you.

coffee_beqn 4y ago
What is the PaaS people use today? Just big cloud is too powerful or are there still niche companies that make life easy for startups like Heroku used to?
- joshstrange 4y ago
  Fly.io is one I've looked at a few times but hasn't been exactly what I wanted to normally I just use AWS, Firebase, or a DO droplet. Supabase is something I've been interested in as well but I haven't played with it yet either.
- mapcat 4y ago
  Railway is super easy to get started. Render and Fly are good options too
- akprasad 4y ago
  I've been experimenting with Render (render.com) and like it so far.
- malyk 4y ago
  porter is another
- appliku 4y ago
  If you are doing Django or Python https://appliku.com https://appliku.com Free tier for deployments + AWS Free tier = year or free and convenient hosting
- rychco 4y ago
  render.com & fly.io are two choices that may fit your description. I've deployed a small project to render.com and it's been enjoyable.
- mterrel 4y ago
  Adaptable.io is definitely trying to make a better developer experience for startups and other devs. I think it's easier than Heroku.
- hisapo91 4y ago
  we're currently using early heroku dx as a gold standard while building a python cloud suite at abstracloud.com (disclaimer: i work at abstra)
countspongebob 4y ago
We are not shutting it down. As I said in the blog, our priority is making sure that Heroku choice is a good business decision for critical apps of all sizes. This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.
- joshstrange 4y ago
  Ok, let's see how well this comment ages. I predict in 5-10 years max we will get an "Our incredibly journey" post or a "Heroku is now Salesforce Cloud" (if that name isn't already taken, I have no clue, "Safeforce" is an immediate "avoid! red flag!" for me, I don't follow that company). Heroku was amazing when it first came out but it squandered the lead it had and hasn't done anything interesting for a long time. As with all "let's squeeze all we can out of this" you will continue to make money for a number of years no doubt but you've just destroyed a major onboarding ramp (free tier), your security appears to be a joke from the outside looking in, and your product has been effectively on life support for many years now. A public roadmap is too little, too late. You've lost the trust of developers and it's only going to be downhill from here. > This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite. I'm sure the developers with apps on the free tier don't agree and I'd bet good money they will never touch Heroku again if they have their way. I know I won't.
  - intelVISA 4y ago
    Alarmingly prescient prediction, Heroku had a good run though.
  - ubertaco 4y ago
    "Heroku is now Salesforce Cloud" is an easy-bet prediction, just like "ExactTarget is now Marketing Cloud", or "Pardot is now Marketing Cloud Account Engagement". When something gets the "Cloud" rename, you can bet it's on the way downhill.
  - the_lucifer 4y ago
    > developers with apps on the free tier I'm a grad student who used to use Heroku a lot during undergrad (multiple university projects, used to be my first place to deploy stuff). Just deleted all my apps and removed my credit card, never gonna touch Heroku again with a 10 foot pole.

coffee_beqn 4y ago

What is the PaaS people use today? Just big cloud is too powerful or are there still niche companies that make life easy for startups like Heroku used to?

joshstrange 4y ago
Fly.io is one I've looked at a few times but hasn't been exactly what I wanted to normally I just use AWS, Firebase, or a DO droplet. Supabase is something I've been interested in as well but I haven't played with it yet either.
mapcat 4y ago
Railway is super easy to get started. Render and Fly are good options too
akprasad 4y ago
I've been experimenting with Render (render.com) and like it so far.
malyk 4y ago
porter is another
appliku 4y ago
If you are doing Django or Python https://appliku.com https://appliku.com Free tier for deployments + AWS Free tier = year or free and convenient hosting
rychco 4y ago
render.com & fly.io are two choices that may fit your description. I've deployed a small project to render.com and it's been enjoyable.
mterrel 4y ago
Adaptable.io is definitely trying to make a better developer experience for startups and other devs. I think it's easier than Heroku.
hisapo91 4y ago
we're currently using early heroku dx as a gold standard while building a python cloud suite at abstracloud.com (disclaimer: i work at abstra)

countspongebob 4y ago

We are not shutting it down. As I said in the blog, our priority is making sure that Heroku choice is a good business decision for critical apps of all sizes. This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.

joshstrange 4y ago
Ok, let's see how well this comment ages. I predict in 5-10 years max we will get an "Our incredibly journey" post or a "Heroku is now Salesforce Cloud" (if that name isn't already taken, I have no clue, "Safeforce" is an immediate "avoid! red flag!" for me, I don't follow that company). Heroku was amazing when it first came out but it squandered the lead it had and hasn't done anything interesting for a long time. As with all "let's squeeze all we can out of this" you will continue to make money for a number of years no doubt but you've just destroyed a major onboarding ramp (free tier), your security appears to be a joke from the outside looking in, and your product has been effectively on life support for many years now. A public roadmap is too little, too late. You've lost the trust of developers and it's only going to be downhill from here. > This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite. I'm sure the developers with apps on the free tier don't agree and I'd bet good money they will never touch Heroku again if they have their way. I know I won't.
- intelVISA 4y ago
  Alarmingly prescient prediction, Heroku had a good run though.
- ubertaco 4y ago
  "Heroku is now Salesforce Cloud" is an easy-bet prediction, just like "ExactTarget is now Marketing Cloud", or "Pardot is now Marketing Cloud Account Engagement". When something gets the "Cloud" rename, you can bet it's on the way downhill.
- the_lucifer 4y ago
  > developers with apps on the free tier I'm a grad student who used to use Heroku a lot during undergrad (multiple university projects, used to be my first place to deploy stuff). Just deleted all my apps and removed my credit card, never gonna touch Heroku again with a 10 foot pole.