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They didn't have one until Apple created it. Now they should have lower fidelity audio, and/or more shit to carry around and fiddle with, and/or fail unexpecte

They didn't have one until Apple created it. Now they should have lower fidelity audio, and/or more shit to carry around and fiddle with, and/or fail unexpectedly when least needed? You actually can't understand the consumer side of this? Or just like Apple?

lillecarl 4y ago
I've seen more people with wireless than wired headphones for many years now, there's been a couple of instances since I got my fairphone when I miss the headset jack, mostly in cars with old stereo systems. If I had a car like that I'd buy a Bluetooth DAC probably.
doubled112 4y ago
Do they fail frequently? I'd bet that many (most?) people would plug their headphones into the adapter and leave it until the headphones or adapter failed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for Apple or the adapter, but I'm not convinced by the adapter hate either. I do wish I could find Bluetooth devices that didn't suck, though.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  Do cheap, tiny copper cables fail frequently? How long have you been sampling the electronics market?, heh
  - doubled112 4y ago
    Haha, I might be unreasonably amused by your rephrasing of the question. The adapters (cheap, tiny copper cables) seem as sturdy or sturdier than many of the cables attached to headphones and ear buds (also cheap, tiny copper cables). So maybe the question should have been "do they fail more frequently than the cables would themselves?"
thebigspacefuck 4y ago
I understand it. I was annoyed by the removal of the headphone jack at first. I have a pair of Sennheiser headphones with 3.5mm and I previously used the adapter with them. I didn’t notice any lower fidelity audio with them and leaving the tiny adapter on the 3.5mm jack didn’t really feel like I was carrying anything more around. I’ve replaced the headphone cable on my senns twice and it was never through use of the adapter(usually because I’d get up and pull my computer to the floor and it fell on the jack), plus the Sennheiser cables are like $30 vs $9 so I’d rather have the adapter fail. I did a sound test with my wife’s Bose QCs and they sounded the same or better than my wired Senns. Now I have my own pair and I don’t miss fucking around with wires at all.
- 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
joshstrange 4y ago
> Now they should have lower fidelity audio Like most things audiophiles say: I call bullshit. http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-lightning-to-3-5mm-headphone-jack-adapter http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-lig... > Audio quality of Apple Lightning to 3.5mm adapter (A1749) is almost as good as in-built mobile audio solutions by Apple, though it has slightly worse df-measurements. Mostly due to the higher jitter. But if you listen music you will not hear the difference; it is too subtle to be perceived.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  Now argue the total security of a phone with Bluetooth enabled.
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    Now argue to the risk of stepping outside your house. Come on, the truth is almost none of us need to worry about this. To each their own and you get to pick what your balance of security and convenience but disabling bluetooth is a little too tin-foil-y for my tastes.
    - 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
      Do you know that your bluetooth beacon is used to see how long you linger in front of what shelves? I'm guessing no.
- 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
  You know these dongles increase your audio latency, right? Fidelity is faithful to both time and space. Latency is temporal distortion. (it's probably better than BT, but nothing beats a hard line)
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    You know the vast majority of users don't care? No one is saying you should use AirPods as your monitors while you record but for listening to music/calls/podcasts/etc they work just fine.

lillecarl 4y ago

I've seen more people with wireless than wired headphones for many years now, there's been a couple of instances since I got my fairphone when I miss the headset jack, mostly in cars with old stereo systems. If I had a car like that I'd buy a Bluetooth DAC probably.

doubled112 4y ago

Do they fail frequently? I'd bet that many (most?) people would plug their headphones into the adapter and leave it until the headphones or adapter failed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for Apple or the adapter, but I'm not convinced by the adapter hate either. I do wish I could find Bluetooth devices that didn't suck, though.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
Do cheap, tiny copper cables fail frequently? How long have you been sampling the electronics market?, heh
- doubled112 4y ago
  Haha, I might be unreasonably amused by your rephrasing of the question. The adapters (cheap, tiny copper cables) seem as sturdy or sturdier than many of the cables attached to headphones and ear buds (also cheap, tiny copper cables). So maybe the question should have been "do they fail more frequently than the cables would themselves?"

thebigspacefuck 4y ago

I understand it. I was annoyed by the removal of the headphone jack at first. I have a pair of Sennheiser headphones with 3.5mm and I previously used the adapter with them. I didn’t notice any lower fidelity audio with them and leaving the tiny adapter on the 3.5mm jack didn’t really feel like I was carrying anything more around. I’ve replaced the headphone cable on my senns twice and it was never through use of the adapter(usually because I’d get up and pull my computer to the floor and it fell on the jack), plus the Sennheiser cables are like $30 vs $9 so I’d rather have the adapter fail. I did a sound test with my wife’s Bose QCs and they sounded the same or better than my wired Senns. Now I have my own pair and I don’t miss fucking around with wires at all.

57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago

joshstrange 4y ago

> Now they should have lower fidelity audio Like most things audiophiles say: I call bullshit. http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-lightning-to-3-5mm-headphone-jack-adapter http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-lig... > Audio quality of Apple Lightning to 3.5mm adapter (A1749) is almost as good as in-built mobile audio solutions by Apple, though it has slightly worse df-measurements. Mostly due to the higher jitter. But if you listen music you will not hear the difference; it is too subtle to be perceived.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
Now argue the total security of a phone with Bluetooth enabled.
- joshstrange 4y ago
  Now argue to the risk of stepping outside your house. Come on, the truth is almost none of us need to worry about this. To each their own and you get to pick what your balance of security and convenience but disabling bluetooth is a little too tin-foil-y for my tastes.
  - 57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
    Do you know that your bluetooth beacon is used to see how long you linger in front of what shelves? I'm guessing no.
57FkMytWjyFu 4y ago
You know these dongles increase your audio latency, right? Fidelity is faithful to both time and space. Latency is temporal distortion. (it's probably better than BT, but nothing beats a hard line)
- joshstrange 4y ago
  You know the vast majority of users don't care? No one is saying you should use AirPods as your monitors while you record but for listening to music/calls/podcasts/etc they work just fine.