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>the major strides they’re making at removing racial/gender biases They're literally just appending a race/gender string at the end [1]. In what world is that

>the major strides they’re making at removing racial/gender biases They're literally just appending a race/gender string at the end [1]. In what world is that not just hot air? [1] https://twitter.com/jd_pressman/status/1549523790060605440 https://twitter.com/jd_pressman/status/1549523790060605440

jquery 4y ago
That’s a pretty uncharitable interpretation of my post. You shared an example of a single mitigation that you personally find ludicrous (without explaining why). And then I’m supposed to throw up my hands and go “I guess it’s pointless to try and be less racist”? Bias amplification is a real issue. https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-ch... Tay might still be around if Microsoft gave a thought to potential issues before release. I’d prefer not to have this awesome technology tainted out of the gate as a tool for racists and pornographers. They’ll get their hands on it eventually but it’d be nice if they don’t get all the up-front press.
- ceeplusplus 4y ago
  > a single mitigation That is the only mitigation used in DALL-E 2, which up until recently was the only publicly available text to image model. > I’d prefer not to have this awesome technology tainted out of the gate as a tool for racists and pornographers Why is it your business what people do with the model? If people want to be racist they can already do so, they don't need a shitty model that doesn't work half as well as paying some guy in the third world $2/h to shitpost online. And I don't see the problem with pornography.
  - jquery 4y ago
    I just voiced my support for their decision. Just as you are voicing your displeasure with it. I don't see how we are different.

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>the major strides they’re making at removing racial/gender biases They're literally just appending a race/gender string at the end [1]. In what world is that

by ImprobableTruth 4y ago

jquery 4y ago
That’s a pretty uncharitable interpretation of my post. You shared an example of a single mitigation that you personally find ludicrous (without explaining why). And then I’m supposed to throw up my hands and go “I guess it’s pointless to try and be less racist”? Bias amplification is a real issue. https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-ch... Tay might still be around if Microsoft gave a thought to potential issues before release. I’d prefer not to have this awesome technology tainted out of the gate as a tool for racists and pornographers. They’ll get their hands on it eventually but it’d be nice if they don’t get all the up-front press.
- ceeplusplus 4y ago
  > a single mitigation That is the only mitigation used in DALL-E 2, which up until recently was the only publicly available text to image model. > I’d prefer not to have this awesome technology tainted out of the gate as a tool for racists and pornographers Why is it your business what people do with the model? If people want to be racist they can already do so, they don't need a shitty model that doesn't work half as well as paying some guy in the third world $2/h to shitpost online. And I don't see the problem with pornography.
  - jquery 4y ago
    I just voiced my support for their decision. Just as you are voicing your displeasure with it. I don't see how we are different.