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The images presented are simulations. And they are based on specs of the cameras. Specs rarely contain actual sensor performance and definitely none of the proc

The images presented are simulations. And they are based on specs of the cameras. Specs rarely contain actual sensor performance and definitely none of the processing done off sensor. These mockups are not representative in any meaningful way.

pavlov 4y ago
Yes, it’s disappointing they didn’t try to find actual photos taken on the devices, but understandable for copyright reasons I guess? Here’s a recent article looking back at the seminal Nokia 7650 smartphone from 2002, which was the first mass-market camera phone in most parts of the world: https://nokiamob.net/2022/06/05/flashback-20-years-ago-nokia-7650-the-first-camera-phone-was-launched/ https://nokiamob.net/2022/06/05/flashback-20-years-ago-nokia... It includes a photo taken on the 7650 by the author back in 2002. The lack of focus, poor exposure and very shallow dynamic range are typical of the plastic lenses and tiny sensors of the era.
- lm28469 4y ago
  > but understandable for copyright reasons I guess? They could have bought/rented/borrowed the phones
- numpad0 4y ago
  From that link: "I know, could be nitpicking with some marginal manufacturers such as Kyocera or Sharp, who, truth be told, were really the first to launch phones with a built-in camera, but everyone knows that these were experiments that never come to life, nor has anyone ever taken them seriously." ...No, Sharp alone moved 10 million cameraphones between Oct 2000 - May 2003 across 12 models[1]. They just didn't ship globally. 1(no English versions available): https://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/0305/23/n_sharp.html https://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/0305/23/n_sharp.html
  - pavlov 4y ago
    Yes. This was the era when Japan's mobile market was several years ahead of Europe and USA. Camera phones were first available there. Another example is Docomo i-Mode which was a popular mobile Internet service already in 1999: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode As a curiosity, the emoji character set now found in Unicode was created by Docomo for i-Mode.
  - themaninthedark 4y ago
    Yeah, came here to say the same thing after reading the article. Massive omission of Japanese camera phones.
lm28469 4y ago
And it's missing a very important thing; the lens

pavlov 4y ago

Yes, it’s disappointing they didn’t try to find actual photos taken on the devices, but understandable for copyright reasons I guess? Here’s a recent article looking back at the seminal Nokia 7650 smartphone from 2002, which was the first mass-market camera phone in most parts of the world: https://nokiamob.net/2022/06/05/flashback-20-years-ago-nokia-7650-the-first-camera-phone-was-launched/ https://nokiamob.net/2022/06/05/flashback-20-years-ago-nokia... It includes a photo taken on the 7650 by the author back in 2002. The lack of focus, poor exposure and very shallow dynamic range are typical of the plastic lenses and tiny sensors of the era.

lm28469 4y ago
> but understandable for copyright reasons I guess? They could have bought/rented/borrowed the phones
numpad0 4y ago
From that link: "I know, could be nitpicking with some marginal manufacturers such as Kyocera or Sharp, who, truth be told, were really the first to launch phones with a built-in camera, but everyone knows that these were experiments that never come to life, nor has anyone ever taken them seriously." ...No, Sharp alone moved 10 million cameraphones between Oct 2000 - May 2003 across 12 models[1]. They just didn't ship globally. 1(no English versions available): https://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/0305/23/n_sharp.html https://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/0305/23/n_sharp.html
- pavlov 4y ago
  Yes. This was the era when Japan's mobile market was several years ahead of Europe and USA. Camera phones were first available there. Another example is Docomo i-Mode which was a popular mobile Internet service already in 1999: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mode As a curiosity, the emoji character set now found in Unicode was created by Docomo for i-Mode.
- themaninthedark 4y ago
  Yeah, came here to say the same thing after reading the article. Massive omission of Japanese camera phones.

lm28469 4y ago

And it's missing a very important thing; the lens