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Chrome says that they won't allow ad-blocker extensions to work starting January

12 points by reitanqild 4y ago

mPReDiToR 4y ago
As predicted years ago. The joys of a monopoly web browser. Proof again that we never learn from the past. MSFT made Firefox take off because they made IE suck so hard, Mozilla have tried ever since to make us not use it but some of us are spiteful and use it anyway. Time to get a job with Mozilla and try to change them from within. Make Firefox a popular and useful, privacy friendly, extensible, user focussed piece of FOSS. I'm bitter because Phoenix/Firebird were so promising and the geeks loved them for standards and openness.
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Time to get a job with Mozilla and try to change them from within. Good luck with that. "Mozilla is laying off 250 people and planning a ‘new focus’ on making money" https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363424/mozilla-layoffs-quarter-staff-250-people-new-revenue-focus https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363424/mozilla-layoffs-...
  - AdriaanvRossum 4y ago
    You’re linking to an article from 2020 about the impact on covid on Mozilla.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      Yes, I'm well aware of that. I'm not aware that Mozilla's financial situation has improved significantly since then. In fact, many tech employers are cutting back hiring right now, most prominently Google and Apple. (Note that Mozilla itself is financed heavily by Google Search money.)
bertman 4y ago
So we're linking random reddit memes now? https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/ https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/ This is about Manifest v2 extensions no longer running from January 2023 onwards according the official Google time line.
vsskanth 4y ago
Not able to find any official sources on this. Although it won't be too surprising when it eventually happens, considering this is already the status quo on chrome for Android (except kiwi) Went out of my way to install Firefox for this exact reason. Any reliable numbers on what's the install base on ublock origin ?
- lapcat 4y ago
  > Not able to find any official sources on this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32591738 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32591738 > Any reliable numbers on what's the install base on ublock origin ? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...
  - vsskanth 4y ago
    Ok so it's about manifest v2 sunset, so technically not a full ban yet
xg15 4y ago
> be me > see this on reddit > wonder why it's not on HN > realise it's nowhere else on reddit either and the meme thread has no links > courious.jpg > check out comments > turns out it's just the old declarativeWebRequest story after a few more rounds of telephone > nothingtoseehere.gif > a day later > see it trending on HN > circleoflife.avi
- yonz 4y ago
  Ty
beardyw 4y ago
Genuine question - why are there not folks here saying "my website depends on advertising to keep going so ad blockers positively harm me".
- reitanqild 4y ago
  Because just like working in tobacco marketing it is something most people don't like talking about? PS: Personally I have nothing against a website agreeing with a company they love to include a banner linking to their software. I don't hate ads, I hate omnipresent tracking of everything I do across the internet and I hate the resulting sluggishness that comes from loading and executing tracking and ad-serving logic.

12 points by reitanqild 4y ago

As predicted years ago. The joys of a monopoly web browser. Proof again that we never learn from the past. MSFT made Firefox take off because they made IE suck so hard, Mozilla have tried ever since to make us not use it but some of us are spiteful and use it anyway. Time to get a job with Mozilla and try to change them from within. Make Firefox a popular and useful, privacy friendly, extensible, user focussed piece of FOSS. I'm bitter because Phoenix/Firebird were so promising and the geeks loved them for standards and openness.

lapcat 4y ago
> Time to get a job with Mozilla and try to change them from within. Good luck with that. "Mozilla is laying off 250 people and planning a ‘new focus’ on making money" https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363424/mozilla-layoffs-quarter-staff-250-people-new-revenue-focus https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363424/mozilla-layoffs-...
- AdriaanvRossum 4y ago
  You’re linking to an article from 2020 about the impact on covid on Mozilla.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    Yes, I'm well aware of that. I'm not aware that Mozilla's financial situation has improved significantly since then. In fact, many tech employers are cutting back hiring right now, most prominently Google and Apple. (Note that Mozilla itself is financed heavily by Google Search money.)

bertman 4y ago

So we're linking random reddit memes now? https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/ https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/ This is about Manifest v2 extensions no longer running from January 2023 onwards according the official Google time line.

vsskanth 4y ago

Not able to find any official sources on this. Although it won't be too surprising when it eventually happens, considering this is already the status quo on chrome for Android (except kiwi) Went out of my way to install Firefox for this exact reason. Any reliable numbers on what's the install base on ublock origin ?

lapcat 4y ago
> Not able to find any official sources on this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32591738 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32591738 > Any reliable numbers on what's the install base on ublock origin ? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...
- vsskanth 4y ago
  Ok so it's about manifest v2 sunset, so technically not a full ban yet

xg15 4y ago

> be me > see this on reddit > wonder why it's not on HN > realise it's nowhere else on reddit either and the meme thread has no links > courious.jpg > check out comments > turns out it's just the old declarativeWebRequest story after a few more rounds of telephone > nothingtoseehere.gif > a day later > see it trending on HN > circleoflife.avi

yonz 4y ago
Ty

beardyw 4y ago

Genuine question - why are there not folks here saying "my website depends on advertising to keep going so ad blockers positively harm me".

reitanqild 4y ago
Because just like working in tobacco marketing it is something most people don't like talking about? PS: Personally I have nothing against a website agreeing with a company they love to include a banner linking to their software. I don't hate ads, I hate omnipresent tracking of everything I do across the internet and I hate the resulting sluggishness that comes from loading and executing tracking and ad-serving logic.