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11:00 in the video is a fascinating example of someone standing up to Jobs' reality distortion field.

by bignoggins 15y ago

reason 15y ago
Why is that fascinating?
- drumdance 15y ago
  Because all you ever hear about Jobs is that he was a dominating bully. She shows that people did stand up to him (at least when the facts were on their side).
  - baddox 15y ago
    That's not surprising if you've read much about Jobs, especially the Isaacson biography. Jobs generally respected people who were confident enough to stand up to him, and he surrounded himself with good people who could do just that.
  - sjs 15y ago
    Joanna looked like she was about to lose it when he interrupted her, but she let him continue. Even she seemed to know when arguing with Jobs was pointless.
mpanzarino 15y ago
I agree, the same example jumped out. It was interesting to hear it called out to his face when she questioned being a slave to the deadline over the quality of the product.
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sho_hn 15y ago
That's Joanna Hoffman, who was also part of the Macintosh team. The Isaacson bio shares an anecdote about how the Mac team would annually give out an award to the team member who had proven most able to stand up to Jobs, and Hoffman won it the first two years. It was fun to see an example of why.
- mpanzarino 15y ago
  Thanks! I didn't recognize her. Added that info to the article.
  - colton36 15y ago
    What is her accent? It really is fascinating.
    - dredmorbius 15y ago
      Sounds German to me, which would fit with her name.
  - orionlogic 15y ago
    Another figure is (if i'm not mistaken) Mac UI & Icon designer Susan Kare whom stands next to Paul Rand. She has a distinct smile. She seems a bit quite enthusiastic being next to a legendary designer. I bet she is the only one, other than Jobs, who knows the importance of the visitor.
- sambeau 15y ago
  You can see more of her here: http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/246310/ http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/246310/

11:00 in the video is a fascinating example of someone standing up to Jobs' reality distortion field.

reason 15y ago

Why is that fascinating?

drumdance 15y ago
Because all you ever hear about Jobs is that he was a dominating bully. She shows that people did stand up to him (at least when the facts were on their side).
- baddox 15y ago
  That's not surprising if you've read much about Jobs, especially the Isaacson biography. Jobs generally respected people who were confident enough to stand up to him, and he surrounded himself with good people who could do just that.
- sjs 15y ago
  Joanna looked like she was about to lose it when he interrupted her, but she let him continue. Even she seemed to know when arguing with Jobs was pointless.

mpanzarino 15y ago

I agree, the same example jumped out. It was interesting to hear it called out to his face when she questioned being a slave to the deadline over the quality of the product.

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sho_hn 15y ago

That's Joanna Hoffman, who was also part of the Macintosh team. The Isaacson bio shares an anecdote about how the Mac team would annually give out an award to the team member who had proven most able to stand up to Jobs, and Hoffman won it the first two years. It was fun to see an example of why.

mpanzarino 15y ago
Thanks! I didn't recognize her. Added that info to the article.
- colton36 15y ago
  What is her accent? It really is fascinating.
  - dredmorbius 15y ago
    Sounds German to me, which would fit with her name.
- orionlogic 15y ago
  Another figure is (if i'm not mistaken) Mac UI & Icon designer Susan Kare whom stands next to Paul Rand. She has a distinct smile. She seems a bit quite enthusiastic being next to a legendary designer. I bet she is the only one, other than Jobs, who knows the importance of the visitor.
sambeau 15y ago
You can see more of her here: http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/246310/ http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/246310/