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sadly I've seen an increasing amount of American-style SUV and pickup trucks in France since the start of covid.
by hikingsimulator 4y ago
sadly I've seen an increasing amount of American-style SUV and pickup trucks in France since the start of covid.
- vladvasiliu 4y agoThere already were a few before, but now Dodge must have done something "right" because there really are many RAMs around. Those things are so ridiculous for Paris, that I'm pretty sure they don't even fit through some streets. Hell, my father used to have a fairly common French sedan that would sometimes need a lot of maneuvering through the public garage ramps, and would barely fit in the parking slots.
- polskibus 4y agoSame thing happened to SUVs. It's mostly "i want a bigger car than my neighbour" kind of thing , and now there are many more SUVs, driving in a sedan around them feels a bit intimidating, as you are worried they may not see you well enough on the road. It's a downward spiral. Now people want something even bigger on the outside and they go with pickup trucks.
- jbverschoor 4y agoIn NL, a RAM can be bought as a company car, effectively dodging road tax. (50 euro vs 200 euro per month). For comparison, you pay 100 euro per month for a tiny car if it runs on diesel (these were 'green' and exempt from road tax 10 years ago). Or between 30 and 70 per month for gasoline cars.
- jacquesm 4y agoEvery landscaper seems to have at least one of them.
- throwaway0a5e 4y agoAnd this is a problem because why? It's pretty perfect for the role of "something a little lesser than a small dump truck but that still does the same jobs".
- badpun 4y agoThere's 200 euros road tax PER MONTH in NL? OMG and TIL.
- Dobbs 4y agoWe have the best or second best roads in the world (which is very noticeable when you drive into neighboring countries). Additionally we have extremely low congestion even at rush hour. Road tax depends heavily on the vehicle. I think we pay ~€1000 a year, ~€83 a month, for our Hyundai ix35.
- lupire 4y agoUS "road tax" is in the gasoline tax. (Plus a nominal fee for electric cars in some places) Does NL have gas tax? What's that used for?
- Dobbs 4y agoNL has both. * Electric Cars are exempt from both IIRC. * Diesel is mostly front loaded in the yearly road tax. With a very low tax on fuel. So if you drive a lot it is worth getting a Diesel for this reason alone. * Petrol has a lighter yearly tax. There is a formula someplace and it has to do with engine size, weight, age and some other things assuming I understood correctly. The yearly tax is cheaper on average than the diesel. Then there is a large tax on petrol. About €0.17 a liter or €0.642 a gallon.
- jbverschoor 4y agoSometimes over 200.. And then we pay super high excise (lowered until the end of the year) and tax over fuel. Basically we pay about half on taxes over fuel. To finance that, you pay with money your earned and payed 50% income tax. So basically the gov takes 75ct out of your euro, and we still can't manage treasury
- jk7f 4y agoAlso worth mentioning that many of them are running on LPG to keep the costs down
- lupire 4y agoDo company cars not use roads?
- jbverschoor 4y agoA "company car", usually means a van. Something with no passengers except the front row, and it needs to have certain dimensions. The RAM is therefore classified as one of those. And because vans are meant for business, you pay less.
- smcl 4y agoThey're showing up more in Czech Republic too. It's hard to describe quite how ridiculous they look here, they dwarf all cars around them and stick out like a sore thumb. I imagine actually using them is a pain given how scarce parking can be in the city, where I often see them.
- chasd00 4y agoI was in Paris, Normandy, and all over the south of France for two weeks and didn’t see a single pickup. I swear every car there is like a variation of the Ford Fiesta.
- petre 4y agoI only saw a Nissan Quasquai in Paris when I was there. That was the biggest passenger car that I've seen.
- VBprogrammer 4y agoI think lots of people assume that the Toyota Hilux / Ford Ranger type pickups are as big as American pickups. In reality the pickups sold for the UK/EU are modest compared to the US. Even an F150 is quite a bit bigger, nevermind when you get into the F350 etc.