First year college student, right? "First, let's remember that emacs is not powerful in and of itself. It requires mastery to understand the potential and powe

First year college student, right? "First, let's remember that emacs is not powerful in and of itself. It requires mastery to understand the potential and power that lies in it." Same can be said for Math, Computer Science or anything. What did you expect, a silver bullet? ""The inclusion of emacs lisp is amazing, but seriously? Have you programmed a separate application in emacs lisp? You haven't? What? You used Scheme or Common Lisp instead? Than why the fuck are you defending emacs lisp?"" Because it's convenient to have it inside a text editor. Until you go write that other text editor that uses Scheme, that is. We'll wait. ""And that is the biggest flaw. The flaw no one likes to talk about."" No one like to talk about it eh? Really? Strange, because I read criticisms of Emacs lisp all the time. ""How big do you think the population of people who have tried emacs is to the number of current users? Seriously, in terms of a conversion rate, it's absolutely terrible. "" Yeah, I can see how being one of the two more widely used programming text editors in UNIX-land is terrible. ""And that's the whole fucking point of computer science. It's not writing the "greatest" programs. It's sharing. Sharing techniques, skills, libraries and ideas. "" Actually, computer science is not about writing programs at all. That would be software engineering. And it's also not about "sharing techniques, skills, libraries and ideas", though that could come handy. ""It's complicated, arbitrary and designed in a terrible manner. I don't care if it makes sense to you. What matters is that you should be able to easily defend any design decision. And you can't."" Actually I can. But you seem to have already made up your mind. ""We need more people to start programming."" Well, I for one don't. I like my job security, thank you very much. ""Seriously, we deal with fucking computers all day. The most arbitrary representation of knowledge possible. And all people do is whine about how things are "good enough" or "no, someone made this decision a long time ago, and now a lot of people make the same choice, so don't be stupid and choose that."" Yeah. First year college student, definitely. Unable to comprehend the real world tradeoffs (like: something existing is better than your pie in the sky idea of a perfect editor). ""The number of new computer languages being invented is almost fucking SLOWING down. WTF?"" Yeah, really WHERE TF you got that impression? It is actually increasing, nearly everybody and his dog are writing a compiler these days. And it's not like language creation is something special or really good. Especially another run on the mill language, or some academic monstrosity with no following and libs. "" Common lisp, one of the more powerful languages ever invented, got a wonderful tool called quicklisp last year. 15 FUCKING YEARS AFTER CPAN CAME OUT. Why the fuck is shit so fucked up, I mean jesus, it's fucking inexcusable. """ Yeah, it's amazing how slow computer development is compared to all those other fields. I mean it only took like 5,000 years to invent typography. Still, we didn't made a library-system for a language relatively few give a fuck about for 50 years? Inexcusable.