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Brazil: down from R$500 ($100) to R$230($46) Setup fee+hardware from $1000 to $400. Price of local fiber: $30 for 600Mb/s

marcalc 4y ago
That's a nice reduction. Which provider gives 600mbps for $30 (usd?) in Br?
- woliveirajr 4y ago
  Seems to be the base price. Examples: https://liggavc.com.br https://liggavc.com.br --> 600Mbps / 30USD https://www.oi.com.br/internet https://www.oi.com.br/internet --> 500Mbps / 25USD https://www.net.com.br/ https://www.net.com.br/ --> 500 Mbps / 25USD
unixhero 4y ago
The point is not to compete with fiber.
jandrese 4y ago
If you have local fiber you should use that instead. You won't be sharing spectrum with everybody else in the area. Starlink is for people who are underserved by terrestrial broadband.
- yuppiepuppie 4y ago
  Uh what? Starlink is for anyone who wants to buy it. I don’t think Elon would say that you shouldn’t use it, under any circumstance.
  - mrjin 4y ago
    Sure, you can buy it. But should you buy it? Especially when there are far better and much cheaper alternatives.
    - yuppiepuppie 4y ago
      Thats up to each individual to decide. But say you shouldnt buy because there are others that would need it more seems to go against the basic principles of supply/demand
      - snapplebobapple 4y ago
        He is just saying if you have local fiber and its priced similarly or cheaper it is illogical to get starlink, and he is right in almost all instances. This isnt a formal discussion,you kinda need to cut people slack and give benefit of the doubt where there is ambiguity or ask for clarification before going attack dog.
        stazz1 4y ago
        assuming one is stationary
  - aaasss333 4y ago
    Why would you pay more for a slower connection though (both bandwidth and ping)? And probably also less reliable.
badpun 4y ago
Starlink seems to have serious limitations. Apart from potential congestion in your area (leading to limited bandwidth), as the satelites are not geostationary (and hence move) you need to have unobstructed view of a big portion of the sky. If you have trees relatively near you, it can become a problem and connection will be dropped every x of minutes. Having said that, it's still an amazing technology. I hope they will be able to iron out these issues.
- ghaff 4y ago
  >I hope they will be able to iron out these issues. Well, some, like the number of satellites are mostly an economic question. How much satellite is a given user willing to pay for? Others, like objects blocking the antenna's view of the sky are more inherent. Starlink is mostly not likely to be a great option for most people if they have decent terrestrial broadband options.

marcalc 4y ago

That's a nice reduction. Which provider gives 600mbps for $30 (usd?) in Br?

woliveirajr 4y ago
Seems to be the base price. Examples: https://liggavc.com.br https://liggavc.com.br --> 600Mbps / 30USD https://www.oi.com.br/internet https://www.oi.com.br/internet --> 500Mbps / 25USD https://www.net.com.br/ https://www.net.com.br/ --> 500 Mbps / 25USD

unixhero 4y ago

The point is not to compete with fiber.

jandrese 4y ago

If you have local fiber you should use that instead. You won't be sharing spectrum with everybody else in the area. Starlink is for people who are underserved by terrestrial broadband.

yuppiepuppie 4y ago
Uh what? Starlink is for anyone who wants to buy it. I don’t think Elon would say that you shouldn’t use it, under any circumstance.
- mrjin 4y ago
  Sure, you can buy it. But should you buy it? Especially when there are far better and much cheaper alternatives.
  - yuppiepuppie 4y ago
    Thats up to each individual to decide. But say you shouldnt buy because there are others that would need it more seems to go against the basic principles of supply/demand
    - snapplebobapple 4y ago
      He is just saying if you have local fiber and its priced similarly or cheaper it is illogical to get starlink, and he is right in almost all instances. This isnt a formal discussion,you kinda need to cut people slack and give benefit of the doubt where there is ambiguity or ask for clarification before going attack dog.
      - stazz1 4y ago
        assuming one is stationary
- aaasss333 4y ago
  Why would you pay more for a slower connection though (both bandwidth and ping)? And probably also less reliable.

badpun 4y ago

Starlink seems to have serious limitations. Apart from potential congestion in your area (leading to limited bandwidth), as the satelites are not geostationary (and hence move) you need to have unobstructed view of a big portion of the sky. If you have trees relatively near you, it can become a problem and connection will be dropped every x of minutes. Having said that, it's still an amazing technology. I hope they will be able to iron out these issues.

ghaff 4y ago
>I hope they will be able to iron out these issues. Well, some, like the number of satellites are mostly an economic question. How much satellite is a given user willing to pay for? Others, like objects blocking the antenna's view of the sky are more inherent. Starlink is mostly not likely to be a great option for most people if they have decent terrestrial broadband options.