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Totally hear your concerns! There's this article "I Went Viral in the Bad Way" from a write from The Atlantic - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brai

Totally hear your concerns! There's this article "I Went Viral in the Bad Way" from a write from The Atlantic - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/62fc502abcbd490021afea1e/twitter-viral-outrage-ai-art/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/galaxy-brain/62fc502abcb.... He got criticized so hard for using an AI-generated in his newsletter instead of paying an artist to do the work. People's concerns are valid and real. Yet, we can also imagine a future that "lower-level" artistic work can be achieved by AI, like blog article thumbnails, while higher-level artistic work will be done by artists, assisted by AI. Artists can get inspiration from AI artwork and reduce some tedious parts of their workflow.

cocokechun 4y ago
We hope https://openart.ai https://openart.ai can be used by both Dalle-2 enthusiasts as well as artists to draw inspiration for amazing artwork.
- nbzso 4y ago
  Sorry, whichever way you flip this, Inspiration is used again and again to hide the real intent of this technology: To remove artistic contribution from the corporate expenses list. Period. And this is just the beginning. Illustrators are the low-hanging fruit, they have no unions to protect them, they were undervalued for ages even before the digital age. Human made digital art will be competing with synthesis and generative processes for minimum pay, the regular Joe will have no doubt that the AI "Art" is better. The main problem with this tech is that I have no clear answer of the question: Who benefits from this "advancement"? Artists? Or corporations? To become a good artist, I have spent all my life practicing from anatomy through composition and color theory. Can you imagine the stupidity of my choice? Any schmuck with a computer and prompt collection will be a master of Arts soon. The war between Hollywood and Silicon Valley has reached the new high. The "geniuses" which scraped all the stock websites and created this monstrosity, in my view, must be named "The Spirit Crushers" from now on. But hey, it is too late. The genie is out of the bottle. So who is next? I stopped my successful art career years ago over different reasons. But now I see my choice in a different light.
  - isoprophlex 4y ago
    > they were undervalued for ages even before the digital age Why are they? Why are teachers, nurses, policemen, etcetera undervalued? I think this is because these jobs don't scale. You won't be able to show progression through time where you churn out 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, ... artworks/week. Nor can a schoolteacher aspire to teach 30, 100, 300, 1000 kids a year. Our economic system is addicted to growth. S&P 500 must increase 4% a year or we're all doomed. The ridiculousness of this in a post-peak-everything world is glaringly obvious. I'm sorry you chose a form of human expression that is incompatible with infinite exponential economic growth.
- odessacubbage 4y ago
  if you are under the impression that working artists were suffering from any shortage of inspiration before sam altman decided we shouldn't have jobs anymore then you are sorely mistaken.
dwohnitmok 4y ago
> ...while higher-level artistic work will be done by artists, assisted by AI. Artists can get inspiration from AI artwork and reduce some tedious parts of their workflow. I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists (and more generally how increasing AI capabilities don't just replace any career that does not involve some degree of skilled manual labor, at least until AIs get robust manual capabilities). In particular "higher-level artistic work" would seem to be that work which rises beyond what most artists do today. Prompt engineering is a far cry from making a painting oneself and there are likely many people who enjoy the latter who do not enjoy the former.
- tkgally 4y ago
  > I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists I agree that AI engines like DALL-E seem like a threat to many commercial artists, especially those whose name and personality are not closely associated with their works. Magazine illustrators are one example. For some artists, though, the artist’s status as a human being with a unique identity is a big part of their appeal. That’s one reason why there’s such a huge price difference between, say, a painting believed to be by Van Gogh and a high-quality painting in Van Gogh’s style that is believed to be a forgery. My daughter is a successful commercial artist, and I have been following the AI advances partly out of concern for her future. As it happens, she has been able to associate her name and personal identity even with her commercial works, and she is skilled at working closely with her clients to produce the kinds of illustrations they want. For the time being, at least, her business seems safe. I wouldn’t want to make a prediction about the long term, though.
  - avian 4y ago
    > she has been able to associate her name and personal identity even with her commercial works Doesn't this just mean that her future former customers will add "in the style of [her name]" to their prompts?
    - 4y ago
hackernewds 4y ago
When cars were invented, there were concerns of accidents, pollution, noise and even the cost of good horsesmanship rising. And yet here we are..

cocokechun 4y ago

We hope https://openart.ai https://openart.ai can be used by both Dalle-2 enthusiasts as well as artists to draw inspiration for amazing artwork.

nbzso 4y ago
Sorry, whichever way you flip this, Inspiration is used again and again to hide the real intent of this technology: To remove artistic contribution from the corporate expenses list. Period. And this is just the beginning. Illustrators are the low-hanging fruit, they have no unions to protect them, they were undervalued for ages even before the digital age. Human made digital art will be competing with synthesis and generative processes for minimum pay, the regular Joe will have no doubt that the AI "Art" is better. The main problem with this tech is that I have no clear answer of the question: Who benefits from this "advancement"? Artists? Or corporations? To become a good artist, I have spent all my life practicing from anatomy through composition and color theory. Can you imagine the stupidity of my choice? Any schmuck with a computer and prompt collection will be a master of Arts soon. The war between Hollywood and Silicon Valley has reached the new high. The "geniuses" which scraped all the stock websites and created this monstrosity, in my view, must be named "The Spirit Crushers" from now on. But hey, it is too late. The genie is out of the bottle. So who is next? I stopped my successful art career years ago over different reasons. But now I see my choice in a different light.
- isoprophlex 4y ago
  > they were undervalued for ages even before the digital age Why are they? Why are teachers, nurses, policemen, etcetera undervalued? I think this is because these jobs don't scale. You won't be able to show progression through time where you churn out 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, ... artworks/week. Nor can a schoolteacher aspire to teach 30, 100, 300, 1000 kids a year. Our economic system is addicted to growth. S&P 500 must increase 4% a year or we're all doomed. The ridiculousness of this in a post-peak-everything world is glaringly obvious. I'm sorry you chose a form of human expression that is incompatible with infinite exponential economic growth.
odessacubbage 4y ago
if you are under the impression that working artists were suffering from any shortage of inspiration before sam altman decided we shouldn't have jobs anymore then you are sorely mistaken.

dwohnitmok 4y ago

> ...while higher-level artistic work will be done by artists, assisted by AI. Artists can get inspiration from AI artwork and reduce some tedious parts of their workflow. I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists (and more generally how increasing AI capabilities don't just replace any career that does not involve some degree of skilled manual labor, at least until AIs get robust manual capabilities). In particular "higher-level artistic work" would seem to be that work which rises beyond what most artists do today. Prompt engineering is a far cry from making a painting oneself and there are likely many people who enjoy the latter who do not enjoy the former.

tkgally 4y ago
> I'm having a hard time seeing how increasingly better and freely available AI artwork doesn't just completely replace artists I agree that AI engines like DALL-E seem like a threat to many commercial artists, especially those whose name and personality are not closely associated with their works. Magazine illustrators are one example. For some artists, though, the artist’s status as a human being with a unique identity is a big part of their appeal. That’s one reason why there’s such a huge price difference between, say, a painting believed to be by Van Gogh and a high-quality painting in Van Gogh’s style that is believed to be a forgery. My daughter is a successful commercial artist, and I have been following the AI advances partly out of concern for her future. As it happens, she has been able to associate her name and personal identity even with her commercial works, and she is skilled at working closely with her clients to produce the kinds of illustrations they want. For the time being, at least, her business seems safe. I wouldn’t want to make a prediction about the long term, though.
- avian 4y ago
  > she has been able to associate her name and personal identity even with her commercial works Doesn't this just mean that her future former customers will add "in the style of [her name]" to their prompts?
  - 4y ago

hackernewds 4y ago

When cars were invented, there were concerns of accidents, pollution, noise and even the cost of good horsesmanship rising. And yet here we are..