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>they simply look like every other submission because that's what HN submissions look like. But they're not HN submissions, that's the point. >If they were ma
by daenz 4y ago
>they simply look like every other submission because that's what HN submissions look like.
But they're not HN submissions, that's the point.
>If they were made to stand out you'd likely be complaining that they get even more preferential treatment because they stand out.
No I wouldn't, but thanks for telling me how I would feel.
- jacquesm 4y agoThey are HN submissions, but they are restricted in functionality because of past experiences with those ads when they were treated as ordinary submissions. If you want to discuss the company or its products you are entirely free to post an article or a text submission. The amount of entitlement in this thread is quite revolting.
- daenz 4y agoMy definition of "HN submission" is "something that any member of the HN community can submit." You seem to be using a different definition that excludes the vast majority of the HN userbase.
- jacquesm 4y agoI honestly could not care less what your definition is, these have passed through the regular submission queue in the past and it turned into a shitshow and since then they've been given protected status. Clearly that doesn't stop people from wanting to revert that change, which is probably proof that that was an excellent decision.
- daenz 4y agoSpecial posts given special statuses are by definition not normal HN submissions, so representing them as nearly identical to normal HN submissions is misleading.
- jacquesm 4y agoThey get posted to the top of the page and automatically decay, they are clearly marked in the title. To begrudge YC this one pay-off for their efforts and funding of HN seems a little entitled to me. No vote arrows, points and comments is distinction enough for me. I don't think I ever clicked on one by mistake, they are pretty obvious. If you think you can build a better HN then maybe you should?
- daenz 4y agoThe top comment in this thread is the claim that it is a dark pattern, and many of the children comments are supporting that, so maybe consider that your perspective is not the majority one, or it's at least not as clear as you suggest.
- grzm 4y agoI'm sure there are a whole bunch of us that _don't_ find it to be an issue and don't feel the need to prolong its discussion. This type of topic draws in the type of individual that finds it to be an issue: those that don't, move on.
- daenz 4y agoA lack of public support for an idea is not evidence for support for the idea, so I'm not sure why you would even bring up the hypothetical "whole bunch of us" that secretly feel the other way.
- jacquesm 4y agoYou've been here for many years and you probably are well aware of all of this, but in case you feel like re-reading an old thread: Nothing new was written in this one that wasn't explicitly covered here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7624792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7624792