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Birthdays are anniversaries. Anniversaries are annual activities when we celebrate/honor past events. They do not include the event itself. The first anniversar

Birthdays are anniversaries. Anniversaries are annual activities when we celebrate/honor past events. They do not include the event itself. The first anniversary is 1 year after the initial event.

randomdata 4y ago
> Birthdays are anniversaries. Indeed they are, which is why I literally said so in the previous comment. Did you forget to finish reading it? > They do not include the event itself. That is true because the event itself is implied information. There is no value in speaking of it. If you stand before us, we can be certain that you had a day of birth (your 0th anniversary). We don't necessarily know how many times you've gone around the sun following that, however, so that is where we find value in communicating additional information. If you were counting apples, there is the state where you have no apples (index 0), the state where you have one apple (index 1), the state where you have two apples (index 2), etc. When counting you don't need to worry about index 0 because the no apple state is naturally implied. It only becomes interesting and worthy of communication when you have at least one apple to speak of, thus you start at 1. The state found at index 0 is still implicitly there, though.
- lupire 4y ago
  If I care about apples (for my lunch, or my store), I care about the difference between having 0 of them and not having bothered to count yet. 0!=null
  - randomdata 4y ago
    If no apples is the unusual state, like you expected to find an apple in your lunchbox but someone ate it without your knowledge, then certainly there would be reason to communicate the no apples state. It is ignored in communication when it does not provide useful information, but it is not forgotten. The 0th index is implicitly there.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      Come to the infinity store - we literally sell everything! (some items may be out of stock)
      - randomdata 4y ago
        Yes, the infinite state is also implicitly found within the state set. Conveniently found at the infinity index.
sokoloff 4y ago
Yes, that’s the explanation for how we count them as we do, but it has no greater weight (and I’d argue less weight) as to why than saying whether a[0] or a[1] should be the first element in an array. I say it has less weight as birthday is a compound word, the root words of which suggest that your first birthday could logically be the day of your birth rather than a year after it. My first weddingday was not a year after I got married. My first graduationday was not a year after I graduated.
samatman 4y ago
Ok then everyone must do it like us, right? There's no culture where you're born at 1 year old and turn 2 on New Years when everyone gets older? You sure?

Birthdays are anniversaries. Anniversaries are annual activities when we celebrate/honor past events. They do not include the event itself. The first anniversary is 1 year after the initial event.

randomdata 4y ago

> Birthdays are anniversaries. Indeed they are, which is why I literally said so in the previous comment. Did you forget to finish reading it? > They do not include the event itself. That is true because the event itself is implied information. There is no value in speaking of it. If you stand before us, we can be certain that you had a day of birth (your 0th anniversary). We don't necessarily know how many times you've gone around the sun following that, however, so that is where we find value in communicating additional information. If you were counting apples, there is the state where you have no apples (index 0), the state where you have one apple (index 1), the state where you have two apples (index 2), etc. When counting you don't need to worry about index 0 because the no apple state is naturally implied. It only becomes interesting and worthy of communication when you have at least one apple to speak of, thus you start at 1. The state found at index 0 is still implicitly there, though.

lupire 4y ago
If I care about apples (for my lunch, or my store), I care about the difference between having 0 of them and not having bothered to count yet. 0!=null
- randomdata 4y ago
  If no apples is the unusual state, like you expected to find an apple in your lunchbox but someone ate it without your knowledge, then certainly there would be reason to communicate the no apples state. It is ignored in communication when it does not provide useful information, but it is not forgotten. The 0th index is implicitly there.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    Come to the infinity store - we literally sell everything! (some items may be out of stock)
    - randomdata 4y ago
      Yes, the infinite state is also implicitly found within the state set. Conveniently found at the infinity index.

sokoloff 4y ago

Yes, that’s the explanation for how we count them as we do, but it has no greater weight (and I’d argue less weight) as to why than saying whether a[0] or a[1] should be the first element in an array. I say it has less weight as birthday is a compound word, the root words of which suggest that your first birthday could logically be the day of your birth rather than a year after it. My first weddingday was not a year after I got married. My first graduationday was not a year after I graduated.

samatman 4y ago

Ok then everyone must do it like us, right? There's no culture where you're born at 1 year old and turn 2 on New Years when everyone gets older? You sure?