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In the past, I'd buy Intel + Nvidia to hope to avoid these sorts of weird troubleshooting cases. This occurred because I had a first-gen AMD Athlon and ran Win2

In the past, I'd buy Intel + Nvidia to hope to avoid these sorts of weird troubleshooting cases. This occurred because I had a first-gen AMD Athlon and ran Win2k, where support for Thunderbird CPUs/mobos was not complete, resulting in random crashes that required a mix of BIOS, Windows, and driver updates to completely resolve. Nowadays, I have no idea if that advice (Intel + Nvidia) is still sound. There are way more AMD users than before, and computers are more complicated than they were 20 years ago.

johnchristopher 4y ago
Hmm. Wouldn't sticking to any Intel CPU with an IGP be enough ? Haven't had frustrating problems since I stick to that for Linux. But I haven't been really playing on Linux for years now, I don't have the time to experiment much. If it doesn't work at first try then it's windows or console.
- babypuncher 4y ago
  I presume anybody who is already using a dedicated GPU would not be happy with the performance of Intel's integrated GPUs.
  - johnchristopher 4y ago
    My bad, I mixed up thoughts about dev/office usage and gaming. For dev and desktop usage no IGP has let me down. Unless work needs a dedicated GPU to be done I think an IGP is enough for everything else these days. I don't think people using dedicated GPU wouldn't see differences with an IGP in day to day usage.
bityard 4y ago
> I had a first-gen AMD Athlon and ran Win2k, where support for Thunderbird CPUs/mobos was not complete Nit: Thunderbird was the third iteration of Athlon and I only remember this because I had an Athlon 700, which came on a Slot A cartridge (!) and had the L2 cache as separate chips That same system also had one of the first GeForce cards. The term "GPU" was not unknown before GeForce, but it was the first time the mainstream computing media started using it regularly. That was the first computer I built with my own cash and boy it was not cheap. (21" CRT monitor and dual 10k RPM SCSI drives...)
yuuko11 4y ago
> computers are more complicated than they were 20 years ago. Feels like Windows (maybe modern PCs) just doesn't work as well as it used to. Ran Windows 7 x64 for years with very little complaint, 8.1 wasn't great UI wise but worked. 10 onward just seems to lag & crash more. Totally crazy theory would be that binary compatibility (and dependencies) doesn't work well once the original author of a piece of code has retired (or died).

johnchristopher 4y ago

Hmm. Wouldn't sticking to any Intel CPU with an IGP be enough ? Haven't had frustrating problems since I stick to that for Linux. But I haven't been really playing on Linux for years now, I don't have the time to experiment much. If it doesn't work at first try then it's windows or console.

babypuncher 4y ago
I presume anybody who is already using a dedicated GPU would not be happy with the performance of Intel's integrated GPUs.
- johnchristopher 4y ago
  My bad, I mixed up thoughts about dev/office usage and gaming. For dev and desktop usage no IGP has let me down. Unless work needs a dedicated GPU to be done I think an IGP is enough for everything else these days. I don't think people using dedicated GPU wouldn't see differences with an IGP in day to day usage.

bityard 4y ago

> I had a first-gen AMD Athlon and ran Win2k, where support for Thunderbird CPUs/mobos was not complete Nit: Thunderbird was the third iteration of Athlon and I only remember this because I had an Athlon 700, which came on a Slot A cartridge (!) and had the L2 cache as separate chips That same system also had one of the first GeForce cards. The term "GPU" was not unknown before GeForce, but it was the first time the mainstream computing media started using it regularly. That was the first computer I built with my own cash and boy it was not cheap. (21" CRT monitor and dual 10k RPM SCSI drives...)

yuuko11 4y ago

> computers are more complicated than they were 20 years ago. Feels like Windows (maybe modern PCs) just doesn't work as well as it used to. Ran Windows 7 x64 for years with very little complaint, 8.1 wasn't great UI wise but worked. 10 onward just seems to lag & crash more. Totally crazy theory would be that binary compatibility (and dependencies) doesn't work well once the original author of a piece of code has retired (or died).