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What a stupid take as is increasingly the case with ifixit. How does adding manuals and parts make something LESS repairable? At worst you are no better off th

What a stupid take as is increasingly the case with ifixit. How does adding manuals and parts make something LESS repairable? At worst you are no better off than you started. And for all the crap apple gets for things like their batteries, I used to do fleet battery stuff on dell machines using a third party providers and the rate at which these machines BURNED through batteries was insane. THis was a while back, and not sure if it was the chargers, or how they were used (plugged in a lot of deep drained a lot), but for whatever reason apple's battery management tech really seems to get some life out of their batteries. Also, once they started validating batteries so ifixit type places couldn't drop bad batteries into phones, a lot of the trouble there went away as well. Anyways, a screen replacement under apple care is $29. I'll report back how "terrible" the process is (first time in years that I've broken my screen).

ericmay 4y ago
Pretty soon they'll be against right-to-repair legislation. Just watch.
TehCorwiz 4y ago
If you read the article you'd see that Apple will not sell you a battery. They will ONLY sell you a "Top case with battery and keyboard" which requires removing every single part of the laptop in order to replace. This is more invasive, more expensive, and less approachable from a repair standpoint if you go with their process.
- kemayo 4y ago
  That doesn't make the laptop less repairable than it was before they launched this program, though, which is what the headline claims. It's less repairable than a hypothetical version of the repair program which sells you just the component you need to replace, sure, but you can still perform any-and-all actions that you'd have taken to replace a battery before Apple's official program existed.
- dkonofalski 4y ago
  >If you read the article you'd see that Apple will not sell you a battery. YET. The manual and the article itself acknowledge that this repair is only possible with a top case replacement and that battery-only parts will be available soon.
vonseel 4y ago
Applecare screen replacement is a breeze, if you live near an Apple store. Walk into scheduled appointment, hand them your phone and sign your name on their little iPad granting them the permission to repair or replace your device and dealing with payment, and they tell you to come back an hour or two later and pick up your device. I always buy Applecare and have had to replace each of my last iPhones at least once this way, but it's really a no-biggie because it only takes maybe an hour total to drop it off and pick it up, including driving time, once the appointment is scheduled.
- vonseel 4y ago
  Wow, wasn’t expecting downvotes on something that seemed non-controversial like this. I wonder am I getting downvoted because I’m a klutz and have broken a bunch of iPhones, or is it because I didn’t have a negative experience with AppleCare?
  - tempnow987 4y ago
    The "hackers" on HN don't have much appreciation for real world use cases / customer needs. I'm not sure if this was permitted, but I worked with a nonprofit that ran a program for kids that bought apple products and AppleCare on them all. Apple was essentially a program sponsor. Anytime someone tells me how terrible Apple is for the customer, after having to MAIL IN products to other providers who sit on them for MONTHS, I just have to laugh. Many other providers it's not even worth trying to get warranty service because you end up not having a computer / laptop etc for weeks.

ericmay 4y ago

Pretty soon they'll be against right-to-repair legislation. Just watch.

TehCorwiz 4y ago

If you read the article you'd see that Apple will not sell you a battery. They will ONLY sell you a "Top case with battery and keyboard" which requires removing every single part of the laptop in order to replace. This is more invasive, more expensive, and less approachable from a repair standpoint if you go with their process.

kemayo 4y ago
That doesn't make the laptop less repairable than it was before they launched this program, though, which is what the headline claims. It's less repairable than a hypothetical version of the repair program which sells you just the component you need to replace, sure, but you can still perform any-and-all actions that you'd have taken to replace a battery before Apple's official program existed.
dkonofalski 4y ago
>If you read the article you'd see that Apple will not sell you a battery. YET. The manual and the article itself acknowledge that this repair is only possible with a top case replacement and that battery-only parts will be available soon.

vonseel 4y ago

Applecare screen replacement is a breeze, if you live near an Apple store. Walk into scheduled appointment, hand them your phone and sign your name on their little iPad granting them the permission to repair or replace your device and dealing with payment, and they tell you to come back an hour or two later and pick up your device. I always buy Applecare and have had to replace each of my last iPhones at least once this way, but it's really a no-biggie because it only takes maybe an hour total to drop it off and pick it up, including driving time, once the appointment is scheduled.

vonseel 4y ago
Wow, wasn’t expecting downvotes on something that seemed non-controversial like this. I wonder am I getting downvoted because I’m a klutz and have broken a bunch of iPhones, or is it because I didn’t have a negative experience with AppleCare?
- tempnow987 4y ago
  The "hackers" on HN don't have much appreciation for real world use cases / customer needs. I'm not sure if this was permitted, but I worked with a nonprofit that ran a program for kids that bought apple products and AppleCare on them all. Apple was essentially a program sponsor. Anytime someone tells me how terrible Apple is for the customer, after having to MAIL IN products to other providers who sit on them for MONTHS, I just have to laugh. Many other providers it's not even worth trying to get warranty service because you end up not having a computer / laptop etc for weeks.