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What is so bad about a neologism that captures an observable behavior in fewer words than a winded description? If you were to describe what appears to be an in

What is so bad about a neologism that captures an observable behavior in fewer words than a winded description? If you were to describe what appears to be an instance of 'virtue signalling' using existing a term like 'insincerity', 'grandstanding', or 'hypocrisy', you would probably get a lot of agreement.

rocket_surgeron 4y ago
>If you were to describe what appears to be an instance of 'virtue signalling' using existing a term like 'insincerity', 'grandstanding', or 'hypocrisy', you would probably get a lot of agreement. Setting goals with timelines is not insincere, grandstanding, or hypocritical. Nor is wearing clean clothes and brushing your hair. But both setting goals and wearing clean clothes can be described as "virtue signaling".
- BitwiseFool 4y ago
  >"Setting goals with timelines is not insincere, grandstanding, or hypocritical." Having a timeline is not the main issue, the issue is that the timeline seems aggressive and the perception is that there isn't enough to enable this transition. It is like how a politician campaigns on reducing the deficit or 'reforming education' but there is little substance or viability with their stance. >"Nor is wearing clean clothes and brushing your hair." I do not know how this entered the comparison but no one would consider this virtue signalling.
  - rocket_surgeron 4y ago
    >the issue is that the timeline seems aggressive To who? There are dozens, if not hundreds, of municipalities around the world which have all set the virtually identical targets. >I do not know how this entered the comparison but no one would consider this virtue signalling. They are literally, in the literal sense of the word literal, definition-matching actions to the phrase "virtue signaling". >the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. Clean clothes: I can afford to, have the time to, and the will to bathe and wash which are morally correct things to do and which reflect my good character when it comes to cleanliness in society. "no no no its got to be political" Clean air isn't political.
    - BitwiseFool 4y ago
      >"They are literally, in the literal sense of the word literal, definition-matching actions to the phrase "virtue signaling". And this is the definition you shared: "the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue." Emphasis mine, wearing clean clothes and grooming is not publicly expressing opinions and sentiments about one's own good character.

rocket_surgeron 4y ago

>If you were to describe what appears to be an instance of 'virtue signalling' using existing a term like 'insincerity', 'grandstanding', or 'hypocrisy', you would probably get a lot of agreement. Setting goals with timelines is not insincere, grandstanding, or hypocritical. Nor is wearing clean clothes and brushing your hair. But both setting goals and wearing clean clothes can be described as "virtue signaling".

BitwiseFool 4y ago
>"Setting goals with timelines is not insincere, grandstanding, or hypocritical." Having a timeline is not the main issue, the issue is that the timeline seems aggressive and the perception is that there isn't enough to enable this transition. It is like how a politician campaigns on reducing the deficit or 'reforming education' but there is little substance or viability with their stance. >"Nor is wearing clean clothes and brushing your hair." I do not know how this entered the comparison but no one would consider this virtue signalling.
- rocket_surgeron 4y ago
  >the issue is that the timeline seems aggressive To who? There are dozens, if not hundreds, of municipalities around the world which have all set the virtually identical targets. >I do not know how this entered the comparison but no one would consider this virtue signalling. They are literally, in the literal sense of the word literal, definition-matching actions to the phrase "virtue signaling". >the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. Clean clothes: I can afford to, have the time to, and the will to bathe and wash which are morally correct things to do and which reflect my good character when it comes to cleanliness in society. "no no no its got to be political" Clean air isn't political.
  - BitwiseFool 4y ago
    >"They are literally, in the literal sense of the word literal, definition-matching actions to the phrase "virtue signaling". And this is the definition you shared: "the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue." Emphasis mine, wearing clean clothes and grooming is not publicly expressing opinions and sentiments about one's own good character.