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The Electric Car Charging Problem Is Worse Than You Realized

10 points by mikece 4y ago

dougmwne 4y ago
Clickbait title. Gist seems to be that public chargers may be in short supply in some areas relative to increasing electric car ownership based on some surveys. I wonder how many people are buying electric cars without access to a plug at home or work. Seems like that will eventually get to be more common as the adoption curves up and some apartment and urban parking areas are just never going to add chargers.
humanistbot 4y ago
Absolutely irresponsible to write an article like this without even mentioning the $5 billion in EV charging infrastructure that was passed as part of the infrastructure bill. They mentioned the plans by companies to expand stations and the government subsidies for purchasing EVs, but not the massive government investment in charging stations. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/business/electric-vehicle-chargers-biden.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/business/electric-vehicle...
throwaway5959 4y ago
I’m so tired of this. “Electric cars don’t have any place to charge or the chargers are broken.” “OK, let’s spend money on the infrastructure and we’ll build it.” “Nooo there’s no demand for electric cars relative to ICE.” “Electric cars don’t have…” …
edmundsauto 4y ago
What an uninteresting article. 20% of EV owners have left 3rd party stations because the chargers were dilapidated or broken. It then proceeds to say that it might not be an issue.
Night_Thastus 4y ago
Public infrastructure is important, but most people can get by just fine by plugging it in at home when they're done for the night. That is a far more energy and cost efficient way to charge anyways. If you're just commuting around town/to work/school/etc, fast charging is mostly unimportant.
turtlebits 4y ago
Yes, outside fast charging infrastructure is not reliable. That said, it costs just as much as gas (in my area, 4x residential power rate) so it’s not like you will want to fast charge on a regular basis. It’s a pretty bad idea to buy an EV and not have home/work charging.
JoeAltmaier 4y ago
Seems inevitable, free stations don't get good maintenance. I suggest if folks paid for charging station use, then the stations would become profit centers and would get better maintenance.

10 points by mikece 4y ago

Clickbait title. Gist seems to be that public chargers may be in short supply in some areas relative to increasing electric car ownership based on some surveys. I wonder how many people are buying electric cars without access to a plug at home or work. Seems like that will eventually get to be more common as the adoption curves up and some apartment and urban parking areas are just never going to add chargers.

humanistbot 4y ago

Absolutely irresponsible to write an article like this without even mentioning the $5 billion in EV charging infrastructure that was passed as part of the infrastructure bill. They mentioned the plans by companies to expand stations and the government subsidies for purchasing EVs, but not the massive government investment in charging stations. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/business/electric-vehicle-chargers-biden.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/business/electric-vehicle...

throwaway5959 4y ago

I’m so tired of this. “Electric cars don’t have any place to charge or the chargers are broken.” “OK, let’s spend money on the infrastructure and we’ll build it.” “Nooo there’s no demand for electric cars relative to ICE.” “Electric cars don’t have…” …

edmundsauto 4y ago

What an uninteresting article. 20% of EV owners have left 3rd party stations because the chargers were dilapidated or broken. It then proceeds to say that it might not be an issue.

Night_Thastus 4y ago

Public infrastructure is important, but most people can get by just fine by plugging it in at home when they're done for the night. That is a far more energy and cost efficient way to charge anyways. If you're just commuting around town/to work/school/etc, fast charging is mostly unimportant.

turtlebits 4y ago

Yes, outside fast charging infrastructure is not reliable. That said, it costs just as much as gas (in my area, 4x residential power rate) so it’s not like you will want to fast charge on a regular basis. It’s a pretty bad idea to buy an EV and not have home/work charging.

JoeAltmaier 4y ago

Seems inevitable, free stations don't get good maintenance. I suggest if folks paid for charging station use, then the stations would become profit centers and would get better maintenance.