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It's not, it's covering a fixed percentage of the cost of the electric bike or electric car you're willing to buy up to a certain amount and if you match certai

by gryn 4y ago

It's not, it's covering a fixed percentage of the cost of the electric bike or electric car you're willing to buy up to a certain amount and if you match certain geographic and socioeconomic conditions. Provided you do the administive paperwork withing a close time window of getting the certificate of old car destruction.

sva_ 4y ago
What is the percentage? Couldn't find it.
- pc86 4y ago
  There was a comment in the last thread on this (a few days ago?) that said 60% but uncited.
- gregsadetsky 4y ago
  It seems to be 40% [0] "Montant maximal de la prime à la conversion pour l’achat ou la location d’un VAE conditionnée à la mise à la casse d’un ancien véhicule essence ou diesel « polluant » est égal à 40 % du coût d’acquisition" I also see this here [1] on a government site "Le montant de l'aide de l'État est fixé à 40 % du coût d'acquisition" But.. I'm unsure. As the GP said, there are multiple conditions. It's not a check for 4k euros. [0] https://www.blog-nouvelles-technologies.fr/238380/jusqua-4000-euros-pour-echanger-vieille-voiture-polluante-contre-velo-electrique/ https://www.blog-nouvelles-technologies.fr/238380/jusqua-400... [1] https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F36601/personnalisation/resultat?lang=&quest0=1&quest1=0&quest2=0&quest= https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F36601/...
kjkjadksj 4y ago
I hate these methods of grants. I only get $500 for a bike but if I want an electric car suddenly the government hands me $4000? So stupid. $500 buys you half of an entry level e bike. $4000 buys you four of them. If they want to actually make a dent in emissions, just give everyone the $4000.
- sleepybrett 4y ago
  It's certainly more complicated but I think it's better overall. I bought myself an Ebike without a grant as a substitute for my gas car for runs around the neighborhood. Because of the high gas prices in the US it's possible that i've paid off a significant amount of that bike just in the last four months. I started just using in for just errands that are maybe less than 3-5 miles around my house but I sat down the other day and realized that I've only used my car once in the last two months. I imagine though in the winter my car usage will increase (seattle so rain, gloom, early sunsets, etc.)
- zaroth 4y ago
  No because a single person buying four eBikes doesn’t reduce emissions 4x as much as a single person buying one eBike?
  - Zuider 4y ago
    A decent, reliable, eBike will cost around $4000. The cheap ones are very poor value as they are prone to mechanical failure and not very powerful.
    - sleepybrett 4y ago
      My Rad Power Bike seems very decent for 2k. It's heavy as all hell etc. But for your average user it looks like a nice price/quality tradeoff. Regarding power, my understanding is that in many place that is regulated. My Rad is 750w and has pedal assist. 750w seems a little underpowered in hilly seattle but I could also afford to lose more than a few pounds so hopefully down the line it will be perfectly fine (It can get me up all but the steepest grades).
- mperham 4y ago
  Just a quibble: the only available $1000 ebikes are cheap junk. In the US, Rad Power are the cheapest decent ebikes and you're looking at 1500-2000 for them.
- everybodyknows 4y ago

by gryn 4y ago

sva_ 4y ago

What is the percentage? Couldn't find it.

pc86 4y ago
There was a comment in the last thread on this (a few days ago?) that said 60% but uncited.
gregsadetsky 4y ago
It seems to be 40% [0] "Montant maximal de la prime à la conversion pour l’achat ou la location d’un VAE conditionnée à la mise à la casse d’un ancien véhicule essence ou diesel « polluant » est égal à 40 % du coût d’acquisition" I also see this here [1] on a government site "Le montant de l'aide de l'État est fixé à 40 % du coût d'acquisition" But.. I'm unsure. As the GP said, there are multiple conditions. It's not a check for 4k euros. [0] https://www.blog-nouvelles-technologies.fr/238380/jusqua-4000-euros-pour-echanger-vieille-voiture-polluante-contre-velo-electrique/ https://www.blog-nouvelles-technologies.fr/238380/jusqua-400... [1] https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F36601/personnalisation/resultat?lang=&quest0=1&quest1=0&quest2=0&quest= https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F36601/...

kjkjadksj 4y ago

I hate these methods of grants. I only get $500 for a bike but if I want an electric car suddenly the government hands me $4000? So stupid. $500 buys you half of an entry level e bike. $4000 buys you four of them. If they want to actually make a dent in emissions, just give everyone the $4000.

sleepybrett 4y ago
It's certainly more complicated but I think it's better overall. I bought myself an Ebike without a grant as a substitute for my gas car for runs around the neighborhood. Because of the high gas prices in the US it's possible that i've paid off a significant amount of that bike just in the last four months. I started just using in for just errands that are maybe less than 3-5 miles around my house but I sat down the other day and realized that I've only used my car once in the last two months. I imagine though in the winter my car usage will increase (seattle so rain, gloom, early sunsets, etc.)
zaroth 4y ago
No because a single person buying four eBikes doesn’t reduce emissions 4x as much as a single person buying one eBike?
- Zuider 4y ago
  A decent, reliable, eBike will cost around $4000. The cheap ones are very poor value as they are prone to mechanical failure and not very powerful.
  - sleepybrett 4y ago
    My Rad Power Bike seems very decent for 2k. It's heavy as all hell etc. But for your average user it looks like a nice price/quality tradeoff. Regarding power, my understanding is that in many place that is regulated. My Rad is 750w and has pedal assist. 750w seems a little underpowered in hilly seattle but I could also afford to lose more than a few pounds so hopefully down the line it will be perfectly fine (It can get me up all but the steepest grades).
mperham 4y ago
Just a quibble: the only available $1000 ebikes are cheap junk. In the US, Rad Power are the cheapest decent ebikes and you're looking at 1500-2000 for them.
everybodyknows 4y ago