> Basically, if there is no free will, there is no point in debating, because it is already determined what you will believe in a way that has no relationship t

> Basically, if there is no free will, there is no point in debating, because it is already determined what you will believe in a way that has no relationship to logic. I don’t understand this. There are plenty of tasks with deterministic outcomes that are no less worth doing. Sorting a big list of numbers is deterministic, yet it’s often worth doing. There are many tasks which are deterministic but have results which cannot be “predicted” any faster than by simply performing the task.