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> I wasn't surprised that BMW, Tesla or Ford would do something like that. But for whatever stupid reason, Toyota is a disappointment, because I thought they wo

by cma 4y ago

> I wasn't surprised that BMW, Tesla or Ford would do something like that. But for whatever stupid reason, Toyota is a disappointment, because I thought they would be part of a few manufacturers not playing that game I didn't think Sony would follow Microsoft in charging a subscription for online play, but they pretty much had to because buyers didn't weight the hidden costs of it appropriately and Microsoft was already doing it giving them a big margin advantage (which could bleed over into marketshare advantage by investing it in marketing and exclusive titles).

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
But Sony is already charging others for everything. Just to appear on PS4 bar, you have to pay a premium. I sincerely doubt, they were bleeding money ( unlike MS at the beginning of Xbox ) providing free online play. In fact, it was their differentiator.
everdrive 4y ago
>I didn't think Sony would follow Microsoft in charging a subscription for online play, This is explicitly why I'd never buy a PS5, and really didn't touch PS4 except to play Bloodborne. All digital services seem to eventually become anti-consumer. You become reliant on the service, the service keeps changing for the worse or becoming more expensive, and it becomes harder and harder for the user to extricate themselves from it. Even in cases where it's easy to step away from a service, it almost always either degrades over time, or else morphs into something you don't have any interest in. It's like a ticking clock. You can't even enjoy this product because you know it's totally ephemeral. Eventually it will be worse than it was, exploit you in some way, or price you out of it. There are a few exceptions here, but they are rare, and I suspect they are still going to go extinct at some point as well, they will merely take longer.

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> I wasn't surprised that BMW, Tesla or Ford would do something like that. But for whatever stupid reason, Toyota is a disappointment, because I thought they wo

by cma 4y ago

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
But Sony is already charging others for everything. Just to appear on PS4 bar, you have to pay a premium. I sincerely doubt, they were bleeding money ( unlike MS at the beginning of Xbox ) providing free online play. In fact, it was their differentiator.
everdrive 4y ago
>I didn't think Sony would follow Microsoft in charging a subscription for online play, This is explicitly why I'd never buy a PS5, and really didn't touch PS4 except to play Bloodborne. All digital services seem to eventually become anti-consumer. You become reliant on the service, the service keeps changing for the worse or becoming more expensive, and it becomes harder and harder for the user to extricate themselves from it. Even in cases where it's easy to step away from a service, it almost always either degrades over time, or else morphs into something you don't have any interest in. It's like a ticking clock. You can't even enjoy this product because you know it's totally ephemeral. Eventually it will be worse than it was, exploit you in some way, or price you out of it. There are a few exceptions here, but they are rare, and I suspect they are still going to go extinct at some point as well, they will merely take longer.